28th September 2009, 12:46
35 squadron pathfinders-Graveley
I am trying to find out information about my late fathers days in the RAF during ww2.
I know he was based at Graveley in 35 squadron, coming from 10 O.T.U.
I have found a reference to hm on BBC web site
which explains itself.The incident with the urinating pilot must have been in a Halifax-the only time w/o sat beneath pilot? or do you know better!
I have his service records,though they are in 'RAF speak', and there are two separate double sided pages. the first on enlistment, the second from being commisioned.
I think the Lancaster must have been TL-J (therre is a reference from A J Card in the book-Flying through Fire by Geoffrey Williams- mentioning TL-J(jig))
F/O L.B.LAWSON - PILOT from New Zealand-unknown
F/O J.P.LEYDON - NAVIGATOR-unknown
F/O A.J.CARD - AIR BOMBER-now living in Canada
F/O G.E.HEROD - WIRELESS OPERATOR-deceased
SGT S.R.GALE - ?-deceased
SGT L. NICHOLSON - REAR GUNNER-living in Leicestershire
SGT F. EDMUNDSON - FLIGHT ENGINEER Possibly from New Zealand- unkown
Anything on the above would be gratefully received.
28th September 2009, 13:01
I have sent you a pm with an e-mail address you can try for some assistance.
If you're struggling to interpret your fathers service record try asking on here. Quite a few of us have had the same struggles at some point or another and can probably shed some light on it for you.
28th September 2009, 16:19
thanks for contact by pm. have sent enquiry.
I have managed to photo reduce the 4 sides of my fatherrs service records, can you post attachments to this site?
28th September 2009, 16:33
Unfortunately it's not possible to post attachments on this site but if you have a photobucket account or similar webspace you can upload the images to then you can put a link in a post so people can view them.
Originally Posted by paulh
If it's not possible to upload them to webspace then transcribe the dates and details here and we can have a go from that too. For example 10 O.T.U. 24/5/41 will tell us that he was at 10 Operational Training Unit which in May 1941 was at Abingdon.
28th September 2009, 22:11
service records on photbucket
hopefully link to photbucket album of my late fathers service records. there are 4 shots page 1 sides 1 and 2 , page 2 sides 1 and 2.
if you can make sense of the postings i would appreciate a reply.
29th September 2009, 00:26
From Colin Hanson's 'By Such Deeds - Honours and Awards in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, 1923-1999':
LAWSON, Squadron Leader Louis Basil, DFC, (pff).
NZ405800; Born Auckland, 13 Feb 1913; RNZAF 20 Dec 1940 to 19 Oct 1945; Pilot.
Later Sqn Ldr L B Lawson, DFC, RAF 20 Sep 1947 to 1968, 59709.
Citation Distinguished Flying Cross (13 Apr 1945): [35(PFF)Sqn RAF (Lancaster)] This officer has completed numerous operations against the enemy, in the course of which he has invariably displayed the utmost fortitude, courage and devotion to duty.
Died Nelson, 25 Feb 1972.
Edmundson was not a New Zealander, as far as I can tell.
29th September 2009, 22:36
I have transcribed the movements from when commissioned.
AUTHORITY UNITS AREA WITH EFFECT SPECIAL REMARKS
FROM OR DUTIES
91G/183/44 10 O.T.U. 91 GRP 9/11/43
91G/402/44 41 BASE 1/2/44
4G/1581/44 78 SQD 4GRP 21/4/1944 P)WOP???? OPS
BC/12567/44 35 SQDN 8(PFF) 2/7/44 NO/AIR P.F.F.OPL
BC 18379/45 35 SQDN 8(PFF) 29/8/45 W?/AIR ????
3GP/BC/18846/45/36 ???P T.C. 18/11/45 SIGS BRIEFING ???
TC/265/46 HQ 47 GRP 47 4/1/46 SIGS BRIEF DUTIES
TC/6365/46 HQ NO 46 GROUP
46GRP 1/5/46 GD/S BRIEFING
46G/1615/46 100 PDC 28 29/5/46 CLASS ‘A’ RELEASE
JOINED 29/5/41 RELEASE 29/5/1946
I have put? when it is unclear what is written.
Who kept these records up to date? An army of civil servants or were each individual responsible for own record?
30th September 2009, 10:17
F/S W S M Edmonston .
I doubt its significant but the injured Flight Eng on HX148 A Halifax of 35 (Pathfinder) Squadron, which crashed in Mayfield Sussex upon its return on 2350hrs 4.10.43 was F/S W S M Edmonston.
Funny if there was an Edmundsen and Edmonston both Flight Engineers with 35 sqn.
But entirely possible, I accept.
Last edited by david cullen; 30th September 2009 at 10:21.
30th September 2009, 22:51
F/S W S M Edmonston .
Thanks David,but I think a different one. different initials at least. I'm still working through service records to put limits on dates etc on each posting. I think I'm interested in 35 Squadron at Graveley 2/7/1944 to 18/11/1945. Probably on Halifaxes then Lancasters, though trying to pin down date of conversion.
30th September 2009, 23:36
The RAF says March 1944 as date of conversion to Lancasters: