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    Default Clarification saught on 2-7-1942 105 Sqdn losses

    Hello,

    Due to a question put to me by a friend.
    I looked up the losses on the 2nd July 1942 with regard to Mosquito's.

    105 Squadron
    Lost DK294 and DK298.

    the problem is this -

    Stuart R. Scott in "Mosquito Thunder" has -
    G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton in DK294:F
    and
    W/C. A.R. Oakeshott DFC and F/O. Treherne in DK298:H.

    W. R. Chorley in "Bomber Command Losses of the 2nd WW" vol 3 has -
    W/C. A. R. Oakeshott DFC and F/O. Treherne DFM in DK294
    and
    G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton in DK298.

    Which is correct please ?

    Further to this Scott has W/C. A. R. Oakeshott DFC and F/O. Treherne in DK298:H being shot down by Fw190 9 miles NNE of Husum, at Sónnebúll, Germany. With G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton last seen flying slowly across the coast on the return leg off Pellworm Island.
    Chorley has W/C. A. R. Oakeshott DFC and F/O. Treherne DFM shot down and crashed into the sea, and no details of the loss of G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton except that they both became POW's. Where did their Mosquito come down ?

    Thank you
    Alex

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    The 105 ORB has G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton in DK294, Form 540 refers to W/C. A. R. Oakeshott going missing but Form 541 fails to note that crew or the aircraft.
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    Default Clarification saught on 2-7-1942 105 Sqdn losses

    Hello Alex,

    I've took a look in the captured "Luftgaukommandos" Index files.

    2 Jul 42 (1336) Mosquito Bredsted 30 km north of Husum 106829

    2 Jul 42 (1349) Mosquito or Douglas Map square 7587 106829

    2 Jul 42 (1350) Probably Mosquito 2 km north-east of Bredstedt, Husum County 106427/30

    That is all, but anybody here, who can convert the German map square 7587 to a named location?

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    Finn Buch

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    Looks about 20km or so WSW of the island of Helgoland, pretty much directly north of Langeoog. This corresponds to the claim by a pilot of JG 1: 02.07.42, Uffz. Almenröder aka. Nocker, 3./JG 1, Mosquito, 7587: (28 km. S.W. Helgoland), altitude 5 m., time 13.54.

    One would assume the crew of the Mosquito would be on Runnymede.
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    Hello,
    Thank you for the replies.

    Were G/C. MacDonald and F/Lt. Skelton rescued from the sea or did their Mosquito come down on land ?

    As for W/C. A. R. Oakeshott DFC and F/O. V. F. E. Treherne DFM they were both on loan from 139 Squadron so would their details be in 139 Sqdns ORB ?

    From the "Luftgaukommandos" Index files is it saying that there were three Mosquito losses ?

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    Hello Alex,

    No, just telling about the number of issued reports. I have not seen the contents of the reports. As far as I have learned, researchers have tried for years to find the captured German files at NARA, with only a little luck.

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    I've also encountered assorted KE report numbers (German doccos on crashed RAF aircraft) which seem to have either been prepared in haste or by multiple sources. In some cases, there were German crash reports for aircraft which weren't lost...

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