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    Default 421024 - Unaccounted airmen - 24-10-1942

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Killed on active service:
    F/Sgt Leonard J. BAILEY - 518543;
    F/Sgt Norman BIRCH - 528863;
    Sgt (Pilot) Arthur BIRD - 656942;
    AC2 Albert R. BULLEN - 1628933;
    AC2 John R. HOLMES - 1641391 - age 39;
    AC2 Donald N.J. HUMPHREYS - 1641447 (in Flight listed as AC2 N.J. Humphreys);
    AC2 Nathaniel MAINS - 1644788;
    AC2 Ronald MASON - 1628951, and
    AC2 John C. PRINCE - 1641385.

    B - Died on active service:
    LAC Eric GREEN - 1065158;
    Cpl Wilfred F. HIBBARD - 650766 - 942 (Balloon) sqn (Sutton-on-Hull);
    LAC John HOLDEN - 652526 - 63 Sqn (Catterick, Yorkshire), and
    AC2 Albert E. JOHNSON - 1392208 - age 29 (in Flight listed as AC2 A. Johnson).

    C - Also looking for death registration, unit and possible cause of death of:
    AC2 John W.T. SKINNER - 1645880 - age 35 (listed in Flight 4-2-1943 p.135 as "wounded or injuried on active service"; he lies buried Mitcham [London Road] Cemetery, Syrrey).

    D - Proposed aircraft losses:
    Beaufighter II.F - R2313 - 54 OTU - dived into ground Greenwood Farm, near Reston, Berwickshire (already as a casualty on this a/c: F/O [Pilot] J. MORRIS - RCAF J/10253).
    Lysander III - V9322 - 58 OTU - collided with Spitfire P7739 on approach, Balado Bridge; P7739 could land safely.
    Master I - N7808 - 5 (P)AFU - flew into ground Wrenbury, Cheshire.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    One of your list was flying in N7808.

    October 24th 1942, 656942 Sgt A. Bird (Instructor) and P/O J.M. Townsend (USA pupil) killed in Master I N7808 at Wrenbury.
    Alan Clark

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    Thanks Al. Pupil pilot was James M. TOWNSEND Jr (AFM = Allied Military Forces) from New York. Initially buried Brookwood Mil. Cem. (US Section) now rests Cambridge US Mil Cem. (Plot E - Row 0 - Grave 10).
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    Hi Henk

    BAILEY, LEONARD JOHN Flt Sgt 518543
    BIRCH, NORMAN Flt Sgt 528863
    BULLEN, ALBERT REGINALD AC2 1628933
    HOLMES, JOHN ROBERT AC2 1641391
    MAINS, NATHANIEL AC2 1644788
    MASON, RONALD AC2 1628951
    PRINCE, JOHN CHARLTON AC2 1641385
    SKINNER, JOHN WILLIAM THOMAS AC2 1645880

    All of the above were registered in Spilsby, Lincolnshire. This area covered Skegness (Recruit Training Centre)

    Humpreys - couldn't find him in Eng/Wales so maybe Scotland?

    Green - Holderness, East Yorkshire
    Johnson - Kerrier, Cornwall
    Hibbard - Sheffield, West Yorkshire
    Holden - Richmond, North Yorkshire

    All the best

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    Thanks Malcolm. The Spilsby registrations may have been air raid casualties or at least killed by enemy action.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Donald N J Humprey age 33 is registered in Spilsby district, Q4

    Bird and Townsend are both registered in Crewe district to complete things.
    Dennis Burke
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    Default Sgt Arthur Bird - 656942

    Hi - sorry for going back to this almost 2 years on, but I've just joined the forum!

    Sgt Bird was my great Uncle and I'm trying to find details about his service/death. I have visited his grave in Hebburn Cemetery where he appears to have a full burial grave plot though he does have the white war grave at the head of the plot.

    If anyone has any links to any website, articles or additional information they could share, I would really appreciate it so that I can put the pieces of the jigsaw together. He died 70 years ago yesterday - 24/10/1942.

    Many thanks.

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    Jane 2805,

    Please don't apologise and welcome to this forum.

    Perhaps the most useful tool to your research is the Record of Service. This will show things like postings, major courses, promotions etc and it allows you to then expand your research by looking at squadron and unit diaries: RAF Forms 540 and sortie details Form 541. Your uncle's logbook is also of considerable value if you have it. Somewhere, the family may have his war medals and this should start with the War Medal but there might be others, depending on where and for how long he served.

    Hope you enjoy the quest, it can be very satisfying but beware - frustrations there are many!!

    Colin Cummings

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    I've come acroos a snippet of information that may possibly account for those airmen registered in Spilsby. On October 24th 1942 Skegness was bombed, and 12 killed, including some R.A.F. personnel:

    http://www.ambridgebooks.co.uk/mayhilldiaryblog/?p=1374

    Regards

    Simon

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    ref-John Holden. The 63 Squadron ORB states "LAC Holden killed in accident to Clarks Tractor". I assume at Catterick.

    Regards Rich

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