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    Hi,

    In November 1940, No. 5 Service Flying Training School moved from Sealand to Ternhill.

    Does anybody know when the first course began in Sealand ? According to the ORB, courses at Ternhill began with n 52.

    Pupil pilots learnt through a series of exercises and in their logbook they wrote the corresponding number (1 up to 25). I have not been able to find what these numbers meant. Does anybody have this list ?

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    Bertrand

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    Hi
    I don't know for 5 SFTS but do for 19 EFTS at Sealand.
    Could they be similar?
    1. Air Experience
    1A Cockpit layout
    2 Effect of Controls
    3 Taxiing
    4 Straight and Level Flight
    5 Climbing Gliding and Stalling
    6 Medium Turns
    7 Taking off into wind
    8 ?
    9 Gliding
    10 Spinning

    Cheers Motherbird

    PS. I would be interested in having info too if anyone knows for sure.
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    Hugh Halliday has posted a comprehensive list of exercises on a few threads, the most recent being

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6579&highlight=exercises

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    Course No.1 finished (no mention in the ORB of the start) on the 15th August 1922. Sealand was called Shotwick at the time, the name was changed in 1924.

    The first page in the ORB has the following:

    "A Royal Flying Corps station was established at Shotwick in the middle period of the War. By November 1917 three squadrons of the 37th Wing were stationed there.
    Later No.51 Training Depot Station was located at North Shotwick and an Aircraft Acceptance Park at South Shotwick. After the Armistice it was decided to retain Shotwick as a permanent Station and No.51 Training Depot Station with its war tradition and achievement became the parent of No.5 Flying Training School of the post-war R.A.F.
    The Station was renamed Sealand during 1924.

    The above statement was provided by the Historical Section (Air BRanch), Committee of Imperial Defence, Audit House, Victoria Embankment, London E.C.4 under reference AH.21/20/F.T.S. dated 14th December 1925."
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    Hi,

    Many thanks for your different and precise replies. I did not know that n5 FTS was so old ! What is the number of the course when the war begun ?

    Finally I have been able to browse to RAF LB and here are the different exercises when pilots were at the No. 5 Service Flying Training School. I have blank for exercises 11, 21, 22 and 24. I think there are others exercises with n20.


    1. Familiarization.
    2 Effect of Controls
    3 Taxiing
    4 Straight and Level Flight
    5 Climbing Gliding and Stalling
    6 Medium Turns
    7 Taking off into wind
    8 Powered appr and landings
    9 Gliding appr and landings
    10 Spinning
    11
    12 Side slipping
    13 Precautionary landing
    14 Low flying
    15 steep turns
    16 Climbing turn
    17 Forced landings
    18 Action in event of fire
    19 Instruments Flying
    20 A night flying landing
    21
    22 aerobatics
    23
    24
    25 Navigation

    Bertrand

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    I've not got a copy of the page for september 1939 but Courses No.41 & 43 were taken in on the 9th October 1939. No.40 Course was ongoing as they were mentioned on the 23rd October proceeding to Armament Training.
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    Hello Bertrand
    I have a complete list of the exercises that were done at 34 SFTS.
    I photographed the page out of a 127 Sqn Pilots log book.
    It is the same as your list with the exception of two.

    It has the following:
    11 - First solo in service type.
    20 - Taking off and landing out of wind
    21 - Flapless Landings
    23 - Air Navigation
    24 - Cross country test
    25 - Night flying
    26 - Formation flying
    27 - Height test (10,000ft dual)

    It also has a few other exercises listed.
    1A, 1B, 3A, 8A & 18A

    There is also a detailed list of the exercises that were to be done as part of the Instrument flying.
    I have uploaded the photo onto photobucket.
    http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af104/127SquadronRAF/Image4.jpg

    Hope this helps
    Regards
    Andy

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    Many thanks Alan and Andy for these new infos. I could complete my list with your sequence of instruction for single engine. Certainly the same exercise in Canada than in Shropshire.

    Bertrand

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