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    Default Sgt F A Upston

    Sgt FA Upston of 511sqn went missing on 23/3/43 in Liberator AL 587,on a flight between Gibraltar and Lyneham,from information in Wings over Wiltshire by Rod Priddle,it states it was carrying freight and 13 passengers, it list the crew names but only AVM Robert Witham in the passengers and have assumed FA Upston was one of the passengers a returning pilot of 511 sqn.
    By the discription missing shot down or severe mechanical failure, any help greatly recieved.

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    He looks to be a passenger.

    From Cummings' "Though Without Anger":

    The aircraft departed from Gibraltar at 10.36 hours local time on a transit flight to RAF Lyneham. However, the aircraft did not arrive and was lost without trace. Errol Martyn records in his book "For Your Tomorrow" Volume 2, that the aircraft was attacked and shot down by fighters over the Bay of Biscay at 14.20 hours and that one of the attacking aircraft crashed into the sea during the engagement.

    Flight Lieutenant Geoffrey Thomas Raleigh Francis RAFVR Pilot
    Flight Sergeant Carlo Ernesto Ferro RCAF Co-Pilot
    Flying Officer John Stanley Renouf RCAF Navigator
    Sergeant Richard Price Marvin RAFVR Flight Engineer
    Sergeant Lloyd George Burry RAFVR Wireless Operator/Air Gunner
    Pilot Officer Richard Sidney Tedder Wireless Operator/Air Gunner
    Air Vice Marshal Robert Parker Musgrave Whitham CB OBE MC RAF
    Flying Officer John Gordon Green RAFVR
    Sergeant Frederick William Boustead RAFVR
    Flight Sergeant William John Hough RNZAF
    Pilot Officer Albert Henry Bowler RAFVR
    Pilot Officer Frank Stuart RAAF
    Flying Officer Owen Albert Smith RCAF
    Flying Officer Terence James Marriott RCAF
    Sergeant Wilfred Archibald Upston RAFVR
    Lieutenant Paul Seymour Skelton RN HMS Medway
    Lieutenant Colonel Lucius William Armstrong-MacDonnell Irish Guards
    Colonel J E Morin Free French Forces

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    Default F A Upston

    Thanks for your quick reply Amrit, the crew are named on the Runnymede memorial
    except for Sgt Boustead who is on the Malta Memorial, I have a post card of the Runnymede Memorial with WA Upston name on given to me by my father in law, FA Upston being his uncle.I was once shown a photograph album of his flying training in the USA, this has since been lost.
    thanks Starfire.

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    Hi S & A,

    There is at least one more name that needs to be added to Cummings' list:

    Name: KNIGHTS, NORMAN REGINALD
    Initials: N R
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Unit Text: 511 Sqdn.
    Age: 21
    Date of Death: 23/03/1943
    Service No: 625161
    Additional information: Son of Samuel and Mabel Knights; husband of K. E. Knights, of Poowong, Victoria, Australia.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 156.
    Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

    AL587, shot down by Lt Ulrich Hanshen, 15./KG 40 in PlQ 14W/ 2586, 1420 hrs.

    See:
    Bloody Biscay:The History of V Gruppe/Kampfgeschwader 40
    Goss,Chris
    Manchester:Crecy,1997 (1st. ed) Check later edition for updates.
    p.207

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 7th December 2009 at 22:58. Reason: Minor correction

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    Thanks Col Bruggy for the additional information looks like Ulrich Hanshen went MIA on 7/6/43 in a JU 88 from a google search source Bloody Biscay, a book I have just ordered.

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    Default Liberatol al 578

    This is additional information for Patrick for Liberator al serials sources of information

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    Default F/LT Raleigh Francis - Pilot of Liberator AL 587

    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hi S & A,
    There is at least one more name that needs to be added to Cummings' list:

    Name: KNIGHTS, NORMAN REGINALD
    Initials: N R
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Unit Text: 511 Sqdn.
    Age: 21
    Date of Death: 23/03/1943
    Service No: 625161
    Additional information: Son of Samuel and Mabel Knights; husband of K. E. Knights, of Poowong, Victoria, Australia.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 156.
    Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

    AL587, shot down by Lt Ulrich Hanshen, 15./KG 40 in PlQ 14W/ 2586, 1420 hrs.

    See:
    Bloody Biscay:The History of V Gruppe/Kampfgeschwader 40
    Goss,Chris
    Manchester:Crecy,1997 (1st. ed) Check later edition for updates.
    p.207

    Col.
    This is Chris Campbell Thomson of Cairns QLD AS (chris.thomson76@bigpond.com. I am 80y/o nephew of the pilot of AL587 whose full name is George Thomas Raleigh Francis - not Geoffery Thomas etc as recorded. He was a pilot for East African Airways Aka Wilson Airways before the war. I received the war office telegram bearing the news to his sister, my mother, in Nairobi, Kenya. Most grateful to your subscribers for more info in 5 minutes than I have been able to glean over the previous 79 years. Thank you all.

    Chris Campbell Thomson
    Lieutenant Colonel (R) Chief Superintendent AFP (R)

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