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    Default Sgt J W. Swann RAFVR 15/09/1943

    Looking for the details leading to the loss of the following airman.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Peter

    Name: SWANN, JOHN WHITE
    Initials: J W
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 107 Sqdn.
    Age: 31
    Date of Death: 15/09/1943
    Service No: 1131447
    Additional information: Son of Andrew and Jeannie Swann; husband of Rosetta Brown Swann, of Glenarm.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. A. Grave 119.
    Cemetery: GLENARM NEW CEMETERY

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    Death registered I beleive Age 30 in Aldershot district, Hampshire Q3 1943.

    There are no other 107 Squadron Casualty.

    The squadron was flying Boston's at the time:

    http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/wattisham/107sq/107sq.htm
    "A brief move to Ford in Hampshire to cover the Dieppe landings happened in August, followed by detachments to Charlton Horethorne in Somerset and Annan in Scotland, but normal operations from Massingham (Norfolk) soon resumed.

    His having a (W.Op./Air Gnr.) listing would suggest he was involved in an aircraft incident rather than a Death on Active service. I can't seem to find him in Flight magazine, another Sgt. J W Swann died around this time on operations to Germany.

    The detachment to Ford might give a clue, he may have been wounded over Dieppe. That said his name is not in the lists Steve49 created.

    Over to the others
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    Good man Col, are there some other names in that lilsting, say in the KOAS list so I can see if its in Flight, don't worry if its too much hastle to go back in to the Times, I don't like their search function myself.
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    Hello.

    Damn and blast , I have just deleted the message!

    Will re-post if necessary.

    DIED OF WOUNDS OR INJURIES RECEIVED ON ACTIVE SERVICE

    The Times. November 26, 1943.

    Swann, Sgt. J. W.

    Named crew members were: Sgt G. E Nicholls - Pilot and Sgt R. J. Hathaway - Observer.

    I doubt that the other crew would be mentioned in The Times. The pilot was unhurt, and the observer only slightly wounded. I'll pop back and have a look,

    No mention of Nicholls, or Hathaway in The Times Casualty List for Nov 26, 1943.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 11th December 2009 at 10:38. Reason: Minor correction

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    Thanks Col, I meant the names of other men, unrelated, in the same RAF Casualty list, I'll try it again.
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    Dennis,

    The Times. November 26, 1943.

    Royal Air Force.

    KILLED IN ACTION.

    Maltby, A.S/Ldr. D. J. H., D.S.O., D.F.C., Morgan, Sgt. W. A., Watters, Sgt. W.

    Col.
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    Printed in Flight Dec 2nd 1943
    DIED OF WOUNDS OR INJURIES Rr.rrivri> <>*
    ACTIVE SERVICE.-Sfrt. II. G. Bright; Sgt. U. I'.
    Cormier; Sgl. J. W. Swnnn.

    Infuriating computers!!
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    Hello All,

    Re: Swann.

    The following might give a clue to his demise:

    Dawn - 3 am to 6 am.

    The two 107 Squadron Bostons flying with 226 Squadron, each carrying twelve 100 lb bombs, made their runs at 5.16 am from a height of 50 feet. They flew in at medium speed, across the cliffs east of Dieppe to blind the Rommel battery. They too met intense and accurate fire from light flak guns and small arms fire. Sergeant R. C. Grant led them in and the second machine piloted by Sergeant G. E. Nicholls was hit and holed in many places; Sergeant R. J. Hathaway, the observer, received slight facial injuries from broken and flying perspex.

    Appendix F - RAF Casualties 19 August, 1942.

    Squadron: 107

    Name: Sgt G. E. Nicholls - Pilot - Unhurt.
    -----: Sgt R. J. Hathaway - Obs. - Slightly wounded in action.

    Machine: Boston III - No serial quoted - OM-J

    Category: Cat A damage.

    See:
    The Greatest Air Battle, Dieppe 19th August 1942.
    Franks,Norman.
    London:Grub Street,1992.
    pp.43 & 231.

    All the above is fine, only problem, Bostons carried a crew of 3/4 (including an Air Gunner).

    Col.

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    Hello,

    I have No. 107 Squadron ORB for August 1943, but not September 1943, sorry.

    I see that Sgt Swann was flying with F/L Blake (pilot), F/O Easton (Nav-B) and Sgt Lacey (air gunner), as the reserve crew on 25th August 1943 (Boston BZ223 OM-D) for the Beaumont-le-Roger airfield raid. Boston L (captained by F/Sgt Truxler, who has been the subject of a thread here a while ago) "abandoned task due to illness of air gunner and aircraft 'D' took its place".

    The same crew flew BZ220 OM-B on 27th August 1943 for the low level raid against Gosnay power station, near Béthune, a diversion for the U.S. 8th Air Force raid against the Eperlecques Blockhaus. 3 Bostons out of 6 failed to return, but BZ220 was among the lucky ones, but failed to bomb and brought the 4 bombs back to base.

    From the list of aircrew - August 1943, pilot was 37666 F/L T.B.D. BLAKE, Nav-B was 132837 F/O F.W. EASTON, wopag was 1131447 Sgt J.W. SWANN.

    Sgt LACEY is not listed as a member of the crew, and appears in a kind of pool of wopag. He was 1334050 Sgt A. LACEY.


    There might be something in "2nd T.A.F." by Thomas & Shores, but I'm not at home right now so can't consult it. Either tonight or someone will be able to do it before.

    joss

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    BZ220 crashed on the 13th Sept due to engine fire, near Eversley.

    Name: BLAKE, TERENCE DAVID BRIAN
    Initials: T D B
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant (Pilot)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Unit Text: 107 Sqdn.
    Age: 29
    Date of Death: 13/09/1943
    Service No: 37666
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. N.E. Grave 2584.
    Cemetery: KENSAL GREEN (ST. MARY'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY

    Name: EASTON, FREDERICK WILLIAM
    Initials: F W
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flying Officer (Nav./Bomber)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 107 Sqdn.
    Age: 28
    Date of Death: 13/09/1943
    Service No: 132837
    Additional information: Son of William Henry and Emily Easton, of Cromer.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. C. Grave 225.
    Cemetery: CROMER No.2 BURIAL GROUND

    Name: LACEY, ALFRED HENRY
    Initials: A H
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 107 Sqdn.
    Age: 21
    Date of Death: 13/09/1943
    Service No: 1334050
    Additional information: Son of William Richard and Clara Beatrice Lacey, of Great Kingshill.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 68.
    Cemetery: CRYERS HILL METHODIST CEMETERY

    Nowt in TAF2 Volume 1

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