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    Default Fg Off WILLIAMS, DOUGLAS J/15206

    Hi All

    I have another request through my website for information on the death of the above.

    He was with 410 Sqn and his death is registered in Pontypridd, although the squadron was based at Coleby Grange at the time with detachments to Predannack and Hunsdon.

    Can anyone help?

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    Hello Malcolm,

    The following might be of interest in relation to Williams:

    On 20 May (1943), Frank Hillock completed his tour and on his departure from the Cougars was presented with silver mugs, cigarette case and smoking box. W/C. G.H. Elms succeeded him in command, having returned from 409 Squadron. Early in April, F/L Don B. Freeman, one of the original members of No.410, had gone to 406 to take command of a flight. Another departure in May was F/O D. Williams who was tour-expired, a month later he was killed in a flying accident in Northern Ireland.

    See:
    History of 410 Squadron, June 1941 - June 1945.
    pp.12-13

    manitobamilitaryaviationmuseum.com/PDF/410squadron.pdf

    Link suspect. (try Googling).

    Make of it what you will!

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 12th December 2009 at 09:19. Reason: Minor correction

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    If his death is registered in Pontypridd then why is he buried in Belfast - seems rather odd.#

    EDIT: I have found another buried in Belfast on 12 June 1943:

    RAF, Queens University Air Squadron, air crash
    WERTS, George L, Ty/Lieutenant (A), RNVR, killed

    Sturtivant gives the cause as Proctor BV552 - in the index he states 12.6.43 but in the main listing he states 5.6.42.

    Don't know if there's any connection with Williams

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    Gents

    Werts was killed when TM X5045 of Queens University Air Squadron DIG at Stormont 12/6/43. Whether Williams was also involved ???.

    The Proctor crash mentioned by Amrrit was at Yeovilton on 5/6/42.

    I think the ref in the index to 'FAA A/c 1939/1945' refers to both of the above incidents.
    As far as I know, there is no way to consult the death registers for Northern Ireland to find confirmation of Williams' place of death; unless Dennis knows how. The Pontypridd connection is perhaps a red herring as there is Douglas Williams registered there in the first qtr and another in the second qtr of 1943, both in the right age range .

    regards

    DaveW
    Last edited by davew; 12th December 2009 at 11:42. Reason: correction of a fact

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    Hi Col

    Many thanks

    He is buried in Northern Ireland which made a registration in Pontypridd a little suspect, but seems to confirm that I probably have a death registration for the wrong person.

    Also thanks to Dave and Amrit

    Malcolm

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    "They Shall Grow Not Old" (Allison) page 815:

    F/O (Pilot) Douglas WILLIAMS - J/15206, from Hamilton, Ontario was killed on a Tiger Moth at Stormont near Belfast. One airman, not Canadian (what may have been Lt WERTS, Henk) was also killed.
    Regards,
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    Many thanks Henk

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    New aircraft to me lads, thanks.

    At this time I know of no online way of checking death registers for Northern Ireland. We do now have Ireland index on the familysearch.com site but NI registers are still paper look up service in so far as I know.
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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