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    Hello All,

    On 21-1-1945, Hudson V AM562, of 5(C)OTU, crashed into the sea 2 miles off Maidens, Ayrshire, Scotland. I have the following crew (in Alpha Order):

    AUS430172 F/Sgt Norman Walter HUGGINS RAAF +
    AUS432194 F/Sgt James Vincent JENKINS RAAF +
    3204233 Sgt (Met. Obs.) Peter Bernard JOSEPH RAFVR +
    1676661 Sgt Eric Raynor KELSALL RAFVR +
    1372529 W/O John ROBERTSON RAFVR +

    I have a problem with ROBERTSON. His death is recorded on the CWGC as; 21-5-1945. Was ROBERTSON a member of the abovementioned crew? Confirmation of the other data would also be appreciated.

    Col.

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    Col,
    Just a thought, 5 OTU had two reportable accidents during May 45, the only one of these in which an aircraft was lost was during a practice torpedo attack, one a/c (Beaufighter)climbed steeply and collided with another above him, the latter succeeded in bringing his damaged a/c back. This implies that the other was lost. Sqdn Ldr R.L.J. Fitch (pilot) was also lost on this date but no sign of him in GRO England/Wales death register, which "might" point to Scotland, and only his body recovered, Robertson may have been with him, as i said, only a thought and some will hopefully prove it right or wrong. Or just a straight forward mistake in the date on behalf of CWGC

    Seasons greetings from a freezing Cornwall.
    ps, couple of files via email.
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    Hi Alan,

    Thanks for the files. Hard to draw any firm conclusions from available info.

    Robertson is mentioned in the undigitised A705 (NAA: A705 166/20/215), of AUS432194 F/Sgt James Vincent JENKINS. I'll do a bit more homework on this over the break.

    Glad Tidings from a surprisingly, mild Melbourne (Australia).

    Col.

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    Col and Alan

    Only loss shown in Cumming's 'The Price of Peace' for the month is Beaufighter, RD426 of 5 OTU which was lost on 24 May 1945 with no injuries.

    Malcolm

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    Thanks Malcolm

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    Casualty List 511 July 7th 1945 Flight magazine

    RAF
    MISSING, BELIEVED KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE—
    Sgt. E. R. Kelsall; W/O. J . Robertson.
    KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE
    Sgt. P. B. Joseph

    RAAF
    KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE —
    Flt. Sgt. N. W. Huggins: Flt. Sgt. J. V. Jenkins; F/O. E. R. Peace.

    1946

    R L J Fitch is listed KOAS on Casualty list 559, printed January 17th 1946.
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Dennis,

    Thanks for that. I would still like to see something positive about Robertson's presence, or otherwise, aboard AM562.

    Peace was killed in 27 OTU Wellington X3465, on 14/15-1-1945. See: BCL7/332.

    Col.
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    Gents,
    I've FITCH on Mosquito RF858 of #1 Prep Pool (P&MC ?); stalled on overshoot and dived into ground, Docking, Norfolk 21.5.45.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    I can confirm that the unit ORB (AIR 29/705) lists W/O Robertson as the pilot of this a/c. The Beaufighter loss on 24 May 1945 was non-fatal and involved F/Sgts McKay and Lee.

    Keith

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    Hello Keith,

    Thanks for the confirmation of Robertson's presence aboard Hudson AM562.

    Happy New Year to you, and others that have helped.

    Col.

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