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    Default Groundcrew losses 01.01.45

    Hello all and Happy New Year to all,

    It is probably the good day to ask a such thing, but I would like to know if exists any list of Commonwealth groundcrew personnel who were killed during the famous air strike Bodenplatte on 01.01.45. Some figures are giving 29 (and 11 pilots). The ORBs are not very specific sometimes so it is difficult to find the names.

    Thanks in advance

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    If you Google "Geoff's Search Engine, it allows you to search the CWGC records using both the date 01/01/1045 and Royal Air Force.
    http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/sxww2.php?value=1&pageno=1
    There appear to be 18 deaths not showing a Squadron and therefore likely to be groundcrew out of the 99 produced.
    You can probably rule out Bomber, Transport or Coastal Command crews or those in other theatres of war to narrow down any pilots in the remaining 81 records.
    Hope this helps
    Happy New Year

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    Not really a comprehensive method.

    It omits the losses from any Commonwealth nation (eg. LAC Gordon Ross Bell RCAF killed during staffing at Eindhoven)

    You also need to include Canada, NZ, Aus etc.

    Coastal Command had aircraft destroyed on the ground as did Transport and Bomber Commands with associated casualties.

    The best method would be to use Henk's system. List all casualties for the date regardless of RAF/RCAF/RNZAF/RAAF/AAC/FAA etc then eliminate airborne losses, out of theatre losses to leave the true casualty figure.

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    Hi,
    From Geoffs search engine and GRO, but must only remain possibilties
    Buried Eindhoven.
    LAC WLV Grist...124 Wing.
    LAC RW McCristal
    LAC GW Nicholson...6168 SE.
    LAC HE Osborne...403 SRU.
    LAC CA Rabbitt...6168 SE.

    Buried Brussels...
    LAC C Cunliffe...65 MU.
    Corp DC Gregory...6069 SE.
    AC1 JE Johnson...6069 SE.
    LAC B Jones...6069 SE.
    LAC H Williamson...9 Wks Sqdn.

    Buried Gent.
    LAC J Sagar...Comm Sqdn 85 Group.
    LAC T Wilson...5406 G MSU.

    LAC Jones deleted "ref" Joss.
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    Hello,

    Following Alan's post, you can delete AC1 Robert JONES, buried in Cambrai, for he was killed in a traffic accident, riding a motorcycle. Circumstances of death from No. 147 RSU ORB, which also adds he was buried on 4th January.

    I've never read anywhere that Cambrai-Epinoy was raided on 1st January 1945 either.

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    Thanks, useful site.

    If I take the example of 168 Sqn, the ORB states that 3 squadron airmen were killed during the attack. I guess the two men from 6168 SE are two of them. Am I right?

    It seem that the third could be Evan Davies buried at Eindhoven as well where the 168 Sqn was stationed, with 6168 Sqn as Unit text.

    Am I on the good track?

    Thanks

    Phil

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    In the book 'Bodenplatte -The Luftwaffe's last hope' by J Manrho & R Putz Appendix 12 lists the KNOWN personel casualties on the airfields.
    The list contains SE and squadron personel.
    Ive made a quick tally of the number of airmen killed.
    Eindhoven - 14 killed, 2 Died of wounds.
    Evere - 1 killed, 1 Died of wounds.
    Grimbergen - 1 Killed
    Melsbroek - 9 killed, 2 Died of wounds
    Brussels - 5 killed
    St Denis-Westrem - 5 killed.

    Total dead - 40

    If you want a scan of the page PM me your address.

    Andy
    Last edited by Andy Ingham; 1st January 2010 at 11:56.

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