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    Default 419 Sqdn Lanc KB752 8 April 1945

    Dear Gentlemen,

    I'm looking for details about the crash site and cause of loss of this Lancaster.

    As always any help is much appreciated.

    kind regards

    Steve

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    Hi

    This is what I found

    KB752
    Built in Oct.43.
    Flown to England & assigned to 419(B) Squadron on 13.6.44 Lost during a raid of 440 a/c that caused heavy damage to the district of Altona, (Hamburg). Lost two engines returning from Hamburg and abandoned over North Sea off of Durham Co. Pilot was F/O H.E.Cram who had engine trouble on way to target and on the way home another engine caught fire. The crew were order to bail out over allied lines. All survived and were back in England within a few days.
    They were F/O W.Olenake, F.Crawford, WO C.Hanna, Sgt E.McGrath, FS J.Case RAF,
    (P)F/O H.E.Cram. 8.4.45

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    Crashlanded between Münster and Osnabrück (area already in allied hands). Sgt E.K. McGRATH - RCAF R/280735 came down within enemy territory but evaded capture.

    Henk.

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    From the 419 ORB's, I have the following information on this incident.

    April 8th/9th, 1945. Lancaster X KB 752 "V": F/O HR Cram J17180. Take-off 1917. Target HAMBURG with bombload same as "S". Primary at 2239.1 hrs from 17,500 ft. 190 Degs. 155 IAS 10/10th low stratum. Ident. by sky markers red with green stars. M.B. heard clearly. Bombed centre of sky markers with red and green stars. No results seen. Stbd. inner cutting intermittently and shooting flame. Started shortly after leaving England. Had develped oil leak. S.I. feathered immediately after bombing. After loosing height to 2800 ft. as called for in tactics the S.O. burst into flame so used extinguisher and feathered again. Unable to hold height. Kept loosing height so abandoned aircraft when at approx. 2500 ft. Position was roughtly 5208N 0744E. All crew out safely. A/C seen to crash and burn on ground.

    The Squadron History reports similar information, presumably coming from the ORB's...

    "An operation on Hamburg, also a t night, followed four days later.
    Shortly after the crossing of the English coast on the way to the target, the
    starboard inner engine of Lancaster "V"-Victor began to cut out
    intermittently and eject flame. The captain, F/O H. R. Cram, who was
    flying the third sortie of his second tour, carried on to the target on four
    engines (the trouble presumably persisted all the way), bombed the primary,
    and then feathered the troublesome engine. A descent from the bombing
    height of 17, 500 feet to low altitude was made on the homeward leg, but a t
    a level of 2,800 feet the starboard outer burst into flame. The use of the
    feathering procedure and the Graviner system successfully doused the fire,
    but on two engines Cram was unable to hold height. A bail-out was effected
    at approximately 2, 500 feet, the a i r c r a f t ' s position then being approximately
    six miles east northeast of Creven, Germany, or about mid-way between
    Munster and Osnabruck. The abandonment was carried out without incident,
    all seven of the crew landing safely. Fortunately they alighted in Alliedoccupied
    territory, and were able to return to the U.K. within three days.
    "V"-Victor was seen to crash and burn."

    From a quick scan of the ORB's for the rest of the month, the "Cram" crew never flew operationally again.

    Jim
    Last edited by JDCAVE; 4th January 2010 at 15:45.

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    In the Squadron History "C"reven should read "G"reven. (15 km N from the centre of Münster)

    Henk.

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    Hello,

    thank you very much for the magnificient informations. They are of great help for my researches.

    @Henk

    the coordinates give the location of Ladbergen which is NE of Greven.

    kind regards

    Steve

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