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    Hi

    Welcome to the forum.

    There were no Liberator losses on 5 Dec 1942 and his death is registered in the right area for the Tiger Moth loss on post #8

    Unfortunately I don't have any further details on his career

    All the best

    Malcolm

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    Hi People,

    Looking at the Form 1180 for Tiger Moth DE527 it lists 2 killed.

    The only one of the fatalities named is the pilot

    Sgt D R M Allan 1365875

    The flight is decribed as practice flight with unauthorised passenger.

    Comment is made on the health of the passenger and it's possible bearing on the accident.

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    Ross

    Thanks for confirming Allan

    Malcolm

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    Default AC1 L Sutcliffe KOAS

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    discussed on this thread 18/04/2012

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?12815-Sergeant-JONES-N.L.-1266012-Martinet-HN941

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    Default Sgt.Pilot R.G.B.Harrison.

    Thank you Ross and Malcolm for the information. It seems likely that he died in this crash. Do you know exactly where I should search to find confirmation of the details of his death. Do you think that he was not named because it was an unauthorised flight?
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    loopysam, Hi,
    Yr man's death is recorded at:-
    Sutcliffe Lewis 22 Nthmbld.N.2nd. 10b 477.
    That is, Lewis Sutcliffe, aged 22, Death Registered in Northumberland North 2nd District (see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/northumberland%20north%20second.html for areas and parishes that District covers). The Death Cert Ref is Volume 10b Page 477.
    With all that info you can get a copy of the Death Cert. This should tell you precisely what the Cause of Death was (and this may also make reference to his alleged/supposed "medical condition"), and where - precisely - it took place. It will also tell you who provided that information.
    Whether he was on an unauthorised 'jolly' has nothing to do with it.
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    1. Order a copy of his death certificate from the General Registry Office at Liverpool.
    (Takes about 5 days to come by post)

    2. Contact the RAF to get a copy of his service record.
    (Best info of all but takes about 3 to 6 months)

    3. Visit The National Archives at Kew to view the Operations Record Book for the Glider Pilot Exercise Unit.
    AIR 29/526

    Glider Pilot Exercise Unit, based at Netheravon and other UK locations.

    1942 Sept.-1943 Nov

    (May or may not contain a mention of the crash and crew details)

    4. Get a copy of the Form 1180 from the RAF Museum at Hendon
    (I'll send a copy to your email for this)

    The steps above will set you off at a good pace.

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    Also at The National Archives is the Air Investigation Branch report on the crash

    Item reference AVIA 5/21
    Type: Tiger Moth (DE-527); Location: Houghton Down; Report No.: W1382

    I have not examined this section of the report and cannot say the extent. It may be only a few lines confirming the incident or it may run to a couple of pages.

    For more on what an Avia report may contain please see the following link:
    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?11853-AiB-AVIA-Class-Reports

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    Default The Unaccounted Project - Final Stretch Updates by Jon Heyworth

    David Gomer Richards 1211826, attached to 5 MU , was killed in an MT accident at Witney

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    Default Re: The Unaccounted Project - Final Stretch Updates by Jon Heyworth

    John Spence 1141940 , attached to 205 Group , died in Alexandia military hospital of an intestinal obstruction caused by Cronhs disease at 01:15 Hours after having been admitted on 23 November

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