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    Hello all,

    I have three names on my RAF Hunsdon RoH which are listed as 'Nationality - United Kingdom'

    Flight Lieutenant (Nav) Lennert A. KOMAROFF 118438 (29 Sqn)

    ( I found this link but don't know if it's him - http://www.ellisisland.org/search/FormatPassRec.asp?ID=100278110349&BN=P00027-8&sship=Manchuria&lineshipid=3420 )

    Flight Lieutenant (Pilot) Nicolai R. SCHWARTZ 131127 (29 Sqn)

    Flight Lieutenant (Pilot) Jacobus G. STRAUSS 44546 (151 Sqn)

    Does anyone here know if they were UK-born,or as their names suggest,European?

    (P/O Joseph DENEYS, mentioned in earlier posts, was Belgian but listed as 'UK' )

    Thanks,

    Jim.

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    Hi Jim,

    i've just had a brief look on ancestry and find the following:
    Lennart A Komaroff is listed on an incoming passenger ship on the 1st May 1920 from New York. His birth is stated as C.1918 and he arrived in Southampton with his family. His dad Charles D Komaroff is listed as a merchant and his wife Elsa. There is also a daughter Ada J who was aged 5 at the time. The entry states their country of previous permanent residence as 'China'.

    Charles David Komaroff married Elsa Korf in London in 1908 and his death is registered in Marylebone in 1954.

    Cheers, Tom
    Last edited by thorne83; 17th January 2010 at 12:23.

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    Thanks for the info Tom.
    The Komaroff's were certainly a well travelled family! After arriving in Southampton from New York in May 1920,they arrived back in New York from Hamburg in Oct 1920 en route to Shanghai.

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    Hello Jim

    Indeed P/O Deneys Joseph was Belgian.

    Pilot killed on 22/10/1941 with 85 sqn.

    No other info

    Best regards

    René

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    Similarly:

    Name: Jacobus Gustaf Strauss
    Birth Date: abt 1909
    Age: 30
    Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
    Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1939
    Port of Arrival: London, England
    Ports of Voyage: Yokohama, Shanghai, Hong Kong*, Singapore, Penang, Colombo, Port Sudan, Port Said, Malta and Marseilles
    Ship Name: Ranchi

    He boarded at Hong Kong and his occupation is given as Airman and destination address is RAF Station Uxbridge.

    he also seems to have arrived in as follows:
    Jacobus Gustaf Strauss
    Birth Date: abt 1908
    Age: 23
    Port of Departure: Beira, Mozambique
    Arrival Date: 4 Aug 1931
    Port of Arrival: London, England
    Ports of Voyage: Lourenco Marques, Durban [Natal], East London, Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay], Cape Town, Lobito, Tenerife, Southampton
    Ship Name: Durham Castle

    He boarded at Cape Town as far as I can make out.
    The proposed address in the UK is:
    c/o high Commishion for S.A. London, perhaps he was South African
    He was an airman at that time also.

    Both Strauss and SCHWARTZ names appear in the London Gazette with their commishioning information so I would guess they were at that stage nationalised citizens of the UK. If they were fighting for one fo the governments in exile their names would not appear I understand.

    i cannot find matching names in the England Wales birth register index.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    This in is on South Africa historical Website, no idea what it means but they are likely to be South African. Remember, CWGC gives no location for hsi parents, on his wife whom he married in England.

    http://www.heemkring.org.za/

    No Begrafnisbron Van Voornaam Persoon info Geboortedatum Geboorteplek Sterfdatum Sterfplek Begraafdatum Begraafplek Begrafnis info
    2820 Lys145 Strauss Jacobus Gustaaf 30.07.1942 Blok LL No 27
    2821 Lys145 Strauss Katharina 02.04.1931 Blok LL No 39
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
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    Thanks Dennis.

    J G Strauss was another well travelled airman by the looks of it.I think your last post -

    2820 Lys145 Strauss Jacobus Gustaaf 30.07.1942 Blok LL No 27
    2821 Lys145 Strauss Katharina 02.04.1931 Blok LL No 39

    - may refer to cemetery burial records.

    Do you have any info on Flt Lt Komaroff's birthplace?

    Jim.

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    Hello Jim,
    Jacobus Gustaaf Strauss is my father! I am putting together some information which I hope will be of interest to you. He was S. African born, and first learnt to fly with the SAAF.

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    I look forward to reading it Jo.
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    Jim,

    The "nationality" field in a CWGC record does not refer to the nationality of the individual casualty. It is the nationality of the country in who's armed forces he or she was serving at time of death.

    Your three men were members of the RAF, therefore "United Kingdom".

    Ken
    Last edited by Ken MacLean; 5th July 2011 at 20:39. Reason: sp.

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