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    I wonder if there may be some helpful comments regarding a crew photo from 7 Squadron.

    This crew was lost on 27 August 1944 during a raid against Kiel. The photo comes from the relatives of P/O W.S.Baxter (bomb aimer), RAAF.

    Now, the problem. There are only six crew in this photo, but they were seven...so who are the ones in the photo. And which aircraft is in the background? Can anyone help?

    The crew members were:
    F/Lt W.B.Smaill, RNZAF (pilot)
    P/O W.S.Baxter, RAAF (bomb aimer)
    P/O D.R.Fisher, RAAF (navigator)
    P/O J.F.Butson, RAF (w/o)
    F/Sgt A.K.Wooliscroft, RAF (engineer)
    F/Sgt N.Twell, RAF (mug)
    F/Sgt M.G.Godfray, RAF (tg) DFM

    I can´t seem to be able to post the photo on the forum, but hopefully you can see it here:

    http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab122/AemiliaCamilla/Smailandcrew_Lanc.jpg

    Thanks for any help.
    Anette
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    After extensive use of the automatic display feature by porn spammers I have disabled that function.

    To refer to a photo it needs to be hosted on a photosite remote from RAF Commands then the full url link cut and pasted into your post here.

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    OK, thanks Ross. I have posted a link which seems to work, although it´s not clickable...

    To see the photo, copy and paste the address to your browser.

    Anette
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    Forgot to ask; can anyone suggest what it is that the man farthest right has above his right breast pocket?

    Anette

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    Hi Anceas,

    I have a copy of this photo too which I used in my book about 7 sqn. I am at work right now but will check once home for names to match the photo and get back to you. (Though I have a feeling it is one of the photos in the appendix dealing with unknown crews - that may not help you much but it does help me!)

    Yours

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    Hi Anette,

    My guess for what its worth is that if you look at the photo the only crew member who is wearing a darker coloured uniform in the chap on the left (the Aussies had a dark blue uniform than all other crews) so that narrows it down to Baxter/Fisher and as it came from Baxters relatives I would think that he took the photo with his camera.

    Regards,

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    Hi Anette again,

    I would say that would be his whistle to attract attention if he went down in the water.

    Regards,

    John.

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    Thank you for your replies. John; given what you said about the colour of the uniform, and that Bill Baxter, who sent me this copy, thought that Baxter was on the left, it sounds likely he is right.
    Im thinking the second man from left could be the pilot, William Bagley Smaill. The other two men in the front row have sergeant stripes, so ought to be two out of Wooliscroft, Twell and Godfray.

    Well, I can see the whistle, but I meant the horizontal line above his breast pocket, which is lighter in colour. I know Godfray was awarded a DFM, but would it look like this?

    Tom; I look forward to hearing if any of the men are identified in your book.

    I also have a photo of Norman Twell, which a relative of his has sent to me; and a small one of Smaill. Difficult to compare these though, to the crew photo.

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    Hi Anette,

    No his DFM would be on his left brest under his half wing. Second on the left would be the pilot. The one in the jacket could be the rear gunner as his was the coldest position on the aircraft and if they were just back from a mission he may stil be cold plus he is a small man and may well have been the rear gunner.

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    John Sydney Australia (40 + degrees).

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    Hello Anette,

    I have noticed in many photographs, mostly of sergeants, what a appears to be a light-coloured cloth strip attached to their jackets above the right breast pocket.

    The only clear photograph I can find appears on p. 48 of Jonathan Falconer's, Stirling at War. The photo depicts Sgt North, a navigator, of No.149 Sqn. The cloth strip carries his surname in block letters.

    I don't know the significance of the strip, maybe others can help.

    Col.

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