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    Default KIRBY-GREEN Thomas Gresham 39 103 - 40 Sqdn

    Hi all,

    I have above mentioned officer recorded as becoming PoW on 17.10.41 flying with 40 Sqdn.
    Executed by Gestapo on 29.04.44 as one of 50 allied officers after the Great Escape from Stalag Luft III.

    Anyone would be so kind and fill gap when he came to 40 Sqdn?

    TIA

    Pavel
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    PAvel,

    Sometime prior to 10 Sep 41, as David Gunby's 40 Sqn history, 'Sweeping the Skies', records him being on a raid to Italy on this date.

    Errol

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    Hi Errol,

    many thanks. So I have now the gap 12/40-09/41.

    Pavel
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    Pavel,
    Tom Kirby-Green was "relocated as a training officer with a free Czech squadron" after flying 27 raids in the first half of 1940.
    If you can find his name on the strength of the Czech squadron concerned, you may well find when he left them because, "Thereafter he flew Wellingtonsand it was on his 37th raid that he was shot down"..........
    40 Squadron were equipped with Wellingtons in Nov 1940 so I would guess that he arrived on the squadron in, possibly, late spring or early summer of 1941.
    I have to say that this is pure guesswork on my part, but the fact that he only did 10 trips whilst flying Wellingtons does suggest that sort of time envelope.
    Hope this gives you something to go on,
    Bill.
    PS the sections in quotes are taken from Anton Gill's book "The Great Escape".
    Last edited by BillG; 31st January 2010 at 21:31.

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    Hi Pavel,

    From page 122 of Allen Andrews' "Exemplary Justice" a Czech lawyer who knew Kirby - Green is quoted:

    Squadron Leader Kirby - Green was formerly Officer i/c of the Training Flight of 311 Czechoslovak Squadron RAF whilst stationed at RAF East Wrentham (sic), Norfolk.

    No dates given.

    Regards,

    Dave

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    Hi Bill and Dave,

    many thanks for your comments.
    Yes I know he was woth the 311 Sq and it is the reason why I am asking. As he was i/c of the Training Flight this may be the problem why I am not able to find him in the ORB when he left.

    Bill - your guess looks correct as my original period 12/40-09/41 (thanks to Errol) I shortened to 05/41-09/41 as I found his presence with 311 Sq in another document.
    Also is it possible that he left earlier and was not in action for few months before being posted to 40 Sq?

    Pavel
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    Pavel,
    I would think it most unlikely that Tom Kirby-Green would have been out of action for any great length of time after leaving 311 Squadron. Bomber Command was expanding and stepping up its operations at this time and I doubt that the RAF would leave an experienced airman idling about for long. Unless, of course he was posted to a staff job, which seems unlikely.
    Best wishes,
    Bill.

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    Default Kirby-Green to 40 Squadron

    The 40 Squadron ORB records the arrival of S/Ldr Kirby-Green on 30 August 1941, to take command of A Flight.

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    Well done David! I knew if we waited long enough the answer would be forthcoming.

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    Great David - many thanks!
    I have the last prove on my side from 06/41 and as he came to 40 Sq in 08/41 it nearly fits.

    Pavel
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