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    Leeuwarden / The Netherlands, 29th January 2010

    Re: Peter Clement Vellacott Joslin, (RAF, Servicenumber 131479).

    Since the early seventies our research group, “Friesche Luchtvaart Documentatie 1939-1945” has taken an interest in the history of the air war over the Northern part of the Netherlands during World War II. In co-operation with the “Stichting Missing Airmen Memorial Foundation” and the local “Resistance Museum” we aim to gather as much information as possible about the aircraft-crashes and their aftermath, in order to make a historically correct reconstruction of the events. Over the years, our research brought us in contact with many former airmen, pilot-helpers and other researchers all over the world. In some cases we have been able to clear up the fate of pilots who were reported missing in action. On a few occasions we also succeeded in returning recovered personal items from the flyers to their families.

    In the evening of 4th September 1942 Lancaster R5682 of No. 61 Squadron Royal Air Force took off from Syerston to bomb the German town of Bremen. In the early morning hours of the 5th the bomber was intercepted by the German nightfighter. The aircraft was shot down and eventually crashed near Wartena, a small village about 10 miles South of the town of Leeuwarden. Three men were killed and four managed to bail out. They were taken prisoner by the Germans and spent the rest of the war in a POW (prisoner of war) camp.

    In the spring the "Stichting Missing Airmen Memorial Foundation" will organize, in co-operation with the local museum at the village of Grou, an exhibition about the air war over the community of Boarnsterhim / The Netherlands. This is the reason, that we are looking for information about Peter Clement Vellacott Joslin. He was born 8th June 1912 at Hornchurch and was the son of John Henry Joslin and Mary Ruth Vellacott. His birth was registered in the 3rd quarter of 1912 in Romford. His wife was Mildred Helen Knowles. The couple married in the first quarter of 1938. Their marriage was registered in Halstead. The last know address was in Black Notley, Essex. As we do not know much about them, we will be very pleased if you could assist us tracing relatives. Any other help also will be very much appreciated.


    Website: www.luchtoorlogfriesland.nl

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    To help others who may have useful information, this is the info found by Googling:-
    Lancaster QR-R Serial Number R5682 61 Squadron Operation Bremen 4th/5th September 1942
    Airborne 0025 5th Sep 42 from Syerston. Hit by flak while nearing the Dutch coast and then finished off by a night-fighter from 1V./NJG1. Crashed 0251 near Wartena (Friesland), 9 km SE of Leeuwarden, Holland. F/S Joslin is buried in Idaarderadeel (Wartena) General Cemetery; F/S May is buried in Tietjerksteradeel (Eerniewoude) Protestant Cemetery. F/S Cooper has no known grave.
    F/S P.C.V. Joslin KIA
    Sgt E.V. Booth PoW
    Sgt P.J. Bridgeman RCAF PoW
    F/S E.J. May KIA
    F/S B.A. Farmer PoW
    F/O N.D. Mullins RCAF PoW
    F/S J.F. Cooper RCAF KIA.
    Sgts E.V. Booth PoW No.27054, P.J. Bridgeman PoW No.27019, and F/S B.A. Farmer were interned in Camps 8B/344, PoW No.26990 F/O N.D. Mullins in Camp L3, PoW No.679.
    F/Sgt Edward Joseph May NoK details:- Son of Edward Marsh May and Ethel May; husband of Dorothy May May, of Shepherd's Bush, London.
    James Francis Cooper is shown as W/O II in CWGC records Service Number R/55387
    and NoK as: Son of Arthur and Mary Alice Cooper, of Beaupre, Province of Quebec, Canada.
    Hope that helps

    Douwe Deijver:
    I have just logged on to your website.
    The Halifax you show is from 405 Squadron (yes, I know you know that) but for other Forum Pals, please welcome him as you will see:
    405 Squadron Halifax LQ-K Serial Number W7714 Operation Bremen 29th/30th June 1942
    Part of a batch of 200 HP59 Halifax Mk.11. W7650-W7679; W7695- W7720; W7745-W7784; W7801-W7826; W7844-W7887; W7906-W7939. Delivered by Handley Page (Cricklewood & Radlett) between 6 May 42 and 7 Jun 42.
    W7714 was one of three 405 Sqdn Halifaxes lost on this operation. See: W1113; W7715.
    Airborne 2306 29 Jun 42 from Pocklington.
    Shot down by a Me110 night- fighter and crashed 0214 at Deersum (Friesland) 13 km SSW of Leeuwarden, Holland.
    F/S Philp is buried in Rauwerderhem (Deersum) Protestant Churchyard; the rest of the crew had no known graves.
    It was reported in the English 'Sunday Mail' 9 Feb 2003 that this wreckage had been recovered by the RNAF Salvage team on farm land at Rauwerderhem.
    It is further reported that Sgt George Alfred White's body and recorded as the Rear Gunner was the only one recovered and identified at the time.
    However, Squadron Records confirm that F/S Philp was the Rear Gunner of the aircraft whose body was recovered at the scene at the time,
    Sgt White being allocated the crew position of W/Op.
    A local Dutch Policeman Wolter Nijboer, witnessed the crash and made the initial report.
    It should be emphasised that the remains of the other six crew men, having taken 18 months to identify were eventually fully identified and have been afforded a full Military Funeral and buried alongside their comrade F/S Philp.
    F/S L. Sidney RCAF KIA
    Sgt C.S. Walsh RCAF KIA
    Sgt E.K. Brennan RCAF KIA
    Sgt G.A. White KIA
    F/S R.A.A. Gorieu RCAF KIA
    Sgt T.G. Gunn KIA
    F/S C.P. Philp KIA
    Last edited by KevinW4; 29th January 2010 at 15:10. Reason: Addtional info on website - to thank douwe drijver and his friends

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    There appears to be a son Richard P. Johnson born last quarter of 1940.( Registered North Cotswold) He married Pamela Lightfoot 2nd quarter 1965 Dartford. Son Peter John Joslin born 1966 Dartford.

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    Crew of W7714 - except PHILP - still have a field grave at the crash location and are correctly listed by the CWGC as missing and commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. A memorial was unveiled 30-6-2003 near the crash location at Speers.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Henk
    I have also been contacted by Douwe who also confirms that the information I provided from a website is inaccurate.

    He wrote:
    Hello KevinW4, I read your reaction with great interest. The information you have about the fate of the crew is not correct. Philp indeed was the rear gunner of the Halifax. He is the only one who has a known grave. The other six are still reported missing. They have a fieldgrave on the spot where the K for Kathy crashed. In 2003 a monument was erected near the crashsite. Four families came over from Canada to unviel the monument. One from England attended the ceremony.

    Apologies for the erroneous information, but it has such a wealth of detail I had no reason to suspect it as other than genuine.

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