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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 11-7-1940

    What caused the death of:

    Sgt (Pilot) John C. JOHNSTON - 748063 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried Glasgow Necropolis (UK7486), and

    AC2 Kenneth C. WARD - 906775 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), buried City of London Cem., Manor Park, Eastham (UK3468).

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Lysander II - P 9097 - 231 Sqn - crashed in forced landing Castlewellan, Co. Down.
    Magister I - R1965 - 5 EFTS - crashed on overshoot Meir.
    Oxford II - P8927 - 11 FTS - spun into ground 3 miles NE of Shawbury.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    There is a death of a John C Johnston age 25,registered at Whitchurch in Shropshire which might be close enough for the accident N W of Shawbury but is probably too far for the one at Meir,which is in N Staffordshire. A Kenneth C Ward age 20 is registered at Carlisle but that is a long way from the suggested accidents
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    Hello Henk, welcome back.

    The accident '3m NE of Shawbury' would put it in the area of Stanton upon Hine Heath which is in the Whitchurch registration area so P8927 looks good.

    regards

    DaveW

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    Thanks DaveW and Dick. Could it be possible that AC1 WARD was injured and died same day in a hospital at Carlisle ? No idea about distance between Carlisle (what's in Cumberland ?) and crash location in Shropshire.
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    I would also suggest that died of wounds could be an accident days before... I do not know how the casualties are listed differently if someone is killed in the actual incident or a hour later in hospital - are they both classed as 'killed on active service' or is the second one 'killed as a result of injuries recieved' - and what is the classification of this, if they reached hospital alive or were alive when in ambulance??

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    Hi Henk
    I'm sorry but the distance looks too great. Carlisle to Shropshire is about 170 KMS and there would have been better Hospital Facilities much closer if needed, say in Liverpool or Manchester or the city of Chester
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    Thanks Dick and Paul for additional info.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk, Johnstone was part of 22 Course at Shawbury and was indeed killed in P8927. The aircraft came down at Stanton after going into a spin during a tight steep turn. He was the sole occupant of the aircraft.

    Cheers, Tom

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    Thanks Tom for confirmation serial and that he was sole occupant.
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    Henk.

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