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    Default Unaccounted airman - 17-7-1940

    What caused the death of P/O Brian S.T. BROOKES - 81734 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), buried Salisbury (London Road) Cem., Wiltshire (UK5271).

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Hind I - K5503 - 1 FTS - crashed on approach Netheravon.
    Oxford I - L4618 - 5 FTS - collided mid air over Shotton Steelworks with Master N7432 of same unit.

    Casualties N7432:
    P/O John B. ASHTON - 42552 (RAF from Canada)
    Sgt Donald L. GRIFFITHS - 742081

    Caualties L4618:
    Brothers Sgts Eric E.H. OSGOOD - 758217 and Ronald A. OSGOOD - 742599.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    The Osgoods deaths are registered at Hawarden which is only a few miles S of Shotton, Ashton's death is registered at Holywell which is NW of Hawarden and close enough for his death to be connected to the FTS at Hawarden if his a/c flew some distance before coming down.The death of Brookes is registered at Exeter which doesn't seem to tie in with your a/c suggestions.
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    As ever, thanks Dick for your response.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk, just to add that i have in my notes that both the Osgoods were on N7432.

    Cheers, Tom

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    Yes Tom this was known to me but nevertheless thanks.
    Regards,
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    Problem Tom, ignore my previous entry. I knew that both Osgood's were on the same aircraft but I've them on Oxford L4618. Please who may confirm.
    Regards,
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    Hi guys

    Sorry for hijacking your post - but what is the story behind the Osgood brothers? Were they both pilots under training? Or was one an instructor? Or was it an unauthorised flight? I am intrigued.

    Many thanks in advance

    Brian

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    Hi Brian
    Apologies to Henk for prolonging the "Hijack"
    CWGC has both the Osgoods as Sgt , and Pilot.If they had the rank of Sgt in July 1940 it suggests that they were already qualified pilots. Their ages of 20 and 22 mean that they were not qualified for all that long but possibly long enough to have served in France, Norway or in a Home based Command during the "Phoney" war and the later campaigns. At an FTS they could both have been Instructors on a "rest" tour and we must not forget that in July 40 we saw the start of the Battle of Britain and the rapid need for fresh fighter pilots which was probably somewhat anticipated. I don't know if an FTS would have been used to convert back to Single engined a/c or as a refresher course but it is a thought.
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    Thanks Dick

    I wonder if that was a unique incident - brothers being killed in the same aircraft?

    Cheers
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    Still need confirmation whether they were on Oxford L4618 or Master N7432.

    Henk.

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