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    Hi All,

    There is an aileron in Lyness Naval Museum, on Hoy,Orkney that I was told was from a B-24
    Liberator but looking at profiles I can see no resemblance, nor are there any numbers for the Lib i.e. `32` In fact only numbers found were on the hinge D57583. This flap appears to be from a large aircraft and measures around 60 in long and 18 in wide with 3 hinges, does anyone have any idea what it might be off please?

    http://s467.photobucket.com/albums/rr31/highhgroundsman/?action=view&current=P8050040b.jpg

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    Hi Dave,

    I am not an expert but I forwarded the picture to my friend ho is the B-24 expert.

    According to the place it may be from the Liberator crashed on Hoy in January 1945.

    Pavel
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    Hi Pavel,

    This is what the museum people thought but I doubt it is B-24.

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    I'm looking through the profiles at this website:

    http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/A-3vues.html

    I'm as far as the letter G thus far.

    Note the tip of the item tapers to a curve on both sides, the tip of this aileron or perhaps elevator must form part of the aircraft wingtip. There are no trim tabs obvious on it.

    I imagine the layout like the vertical tail of a Douglas Boston, the way its rudder tapers to the fin tip.

    The liberator certainly seems to have very long span ailerons and they are flat edged on both ends, very little if any curved taper.
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    Hi all,

    confirmed - it is definetely not from B-24 - it has 5 hangings.

    I check the picture once more + what types crashed on Hoy. I was thinking about Hudson but from this picture I think it is not Hudson: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/Hudsons-2.jpg

    But friend of mine thinks it may be from a much smaller aircraft - maybe a fighter:

    Corsair - I do not think so

    Dominie - maybe?:
    http://www.aerohub.co.nz/wp-content/gallery/vintage/dh-89b_dominie-zk-akt_b.jpg
    http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1723225.jpg
    http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/1/3/1177314.jpg

    Ju 88 - no
    Skua - no
    Seafire - no
    Martlet - no
    Sworfish - maybe?:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Fairey_Swordfish_on_Airfield.jpg/800px-Fairey_Swordfish_on_Airfield.jpg

    Albacore - upper wing - my candidate:
    http://forum.valka.cz/files/albacore_3d_view_508.gif

    Simply - to me it looks like aileron from a Fairey company aircraft....

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    Thanks for your help guys, don`t think it`s any of those though, I have uploaded a pic taken from the other side which shows a `V` shape cut out on the trailing edge which may hold a clue?

    http://s467.photobucket.com/albums/rr31/highhgroundsman/?action=view&current=Lyness_011.jpg

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    Albacore
    http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/england/fairey_albacore.gif
    Swordfish
    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aeroplans/swordfishmk2.jpg

    Wouldn't the Fairey's be all or part fabric covered,

    This item is all metal as well I think, but that notch in the trailing edge is a dead give away if its a part of the manufacturing standard, its not a dent is it?

    I'll have to pour over my copy of Jane's this evening.
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    Good point Dennis! I concentrated only on the shape and number of hangings but totally forget for the cover!

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    A good puzzle, Pavel. It certainly looks like an aileron within a mechanism that can also be dropped as a flap/brake.

    I looked at the Skua and even Helldiver and Dauntless but that didn't work.

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    Yes Andy and also I supopose when it is at museum at Hoy Island - it must be a type which crashed there...

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