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    Default Bomber Losses, Ramrod 1318, 6 Oct 1944

    Hi guys

    On 6 October 1944, 254 Halifaxes from 4 Group, and 46 Lancasters & 20 Pathfinder Mosquitos from 8 Group, participated in Ramrod 1318 to the Synthetic Oil Plants at Gelsenkirchen and Sterkrade in Germany.

    Four Halifaxes and two Lancasters were lost to Flak at Gelsenkirchen, and three Halifaxes to Flak at Sterkrade (T.O.T. 17:00-17:15).

    Could someone identify these aircraft, please?

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    Hello Steve,

    Not a difficult request, but a long one for there are many losses involved here.

    From BCL volume 5 (1944) : Sterkrade raid losses :
    51 Squadron, Halifax III MZ343 MH-T, F/L R.D. BELL, Sgt E. LONGBOTTON, Sgt J.J. HARRIS, F/O M.J.S. MOHR, F/O A.F. CUNNINGHAM RAAF, Sgt W.H.H. ANDREWS and Sgt E. MEERING. T/O 14h39 from Snaith. No survivor, all buried in Reichswald Forest War Cemetery

    466 Squadron, Halifax III LW372 HD-C, F/O T.J. KENYON RAAF, P/O P.R. LORD RAAF, Sgt P.D. JACK, F/Sgt R.C. KLEZEL RAAF, Sgt B. de B. WHITE RAAF, F/Sgt T.A. McMANUS RAAF, F/sgt F.M. HERNE RAAF and F/Sgt N.F. ROBINSON RAAF. T/O 14h06 from Driffield. JACK is the only survivor, PoW. All the others are buried in Reischswald. I'd say that LORD may have been a "second dickey pilot", and JACK, the only RAF crewmember, the flight engineer. My two pence worth. There should be some info to find in the National Archives of Australia about this crew.

    640 Squadron, Halifax III MZ925 C8-F, F/O P. HETHERWICK, Sgt R.M. DAVIES, F/O J.G. McPHEE RCAF, F/O J.A.G. JULIEN RCAF, Sgt W.R. DRYBURGH, Sgt L. KILVINGTON and F/Sgt A.S. NAIRN. T/O 14h29 Leconfield. Five are buried in Reichswald, while DAVIES and DRYBURGH are commemorated on Runnymede.

    No mention of Gelsenkirchen raid that day, only several losses in the Scholven-Buer raid that same day, indeed a mix of Lancasters and Halifaxes. Do you confirm location ?

    Joss
    Last edited by jossleclercq; 12th February 2010 at 12:27. Reason: correcting typo as pointed by Henk

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    Hi Joss

    Thanks very much for typing this up for me as well.

    According to the RAF Bomber Command Diary (http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/oct44.html): "320 aircraft - 254 Halifaxes of No 4 Group and 46 Lancasters and 20 Mosquitos of No 8 Group - attacked the synthetic oil plants at Sterkrade and Scholven/Buer. Both raids took place in clear conditions and the bombing was considered to be accurate. 9 aircraft were lost - 4 Halifaxes and 2 Lancasters at Scholven and 3 Halifaxes at Sterkrade."

    Scholven and Buer are north-western districts of Gelsenkirchen. The 11 Group ORB Appendix (TNA AIR 25/215) and participating squadrons' ORBs only state that the target was the Nordstern Synthetic Oil Plant at Gelsenkirchen.

    I hope this clarifies things; sorry about the confusion.

    Thanks again
    Steve
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    Joss,
    MZ295 in your msg # 2 must be MZ925.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hello again,

    Here we go for the second run (I didn't want to type all the details for nothing)

    Scholven-Buer losses :
    7 Squadron, Lancaster III PA964 MG-K, P/O D. McRAE, Sgt W.E. FRENCH, F/Sgt W.J.H. BURGESS, W/O2 J.J. REILLY RCAF, Sgt J.E. ATKINS, W/O E.J. BUSWELL, F/Sgt R.R. BAGOTT and F/Sgt W. PARKIN RCAF. T/O 15h07 from Oakington. Sgt ATKINS was flying as the visual air bomber. All PoWs.

    7 Squadron, Lancaster III PB241 MG-X, F/O R.G. BEAUNE RCAF, Sgt J.G. FORSTER, F/Sgt F.G. ETHERIDGE RCAF, F/Sgt K.I.R. MILLIGAN RCAF, F/Sgt A.C. DAVIDSON RAAF, F/Sgt W.H. SWEET, F/Sgt W.A. McWILLIAM RCAF. T/O 15h02 from Oakington. DAVIDSON and McWILLIAM are buried in Reichswald, the others were captured.

    78 Squadron, Halifax III LL588 EY-O, F/O R.L. STANLEY, Sgt G.E. KEMP, Sgt G.W. HABGOOD, Sgt J.A. McKILLOP, Sgt A. MOSS, Sgt H. LOCKETT, Sgt G.H. TILBURN. T/O 14h30 Breighton. collided in the air with another Squadron Halifax, both machines falling on, or near, the Dutch Reform Chruch at Oude-Tonge (Zuid Holland) on the island of Overflakkee where Sgt LOCKETT rests in Den BOMMEL General Cemetery. The others lie in Bergen Op Zoom War Cemetery. All KIA.

    78 Squadron, Halifax III LW511EY-Z, W/O J.H. BRADBURN, Sgt D. MENZIES, F/Sgt R.J. HOLLAND, Sgt D. CRERAR, Sgt R.C. WEST, F/Sgt E. BORKOFSKY RCAF and Sgt A.C.L. TODD. T/O 14h157 from Breighton. Hit by Flak and crashed at Gahlen, 3 km S of Schermbeck. All KIA and rest in Reichswald.

    78 Squadron, Halifax III MZ310 EY-U. F/O C.W. CRAWFORD, F/O D.S. MacGREGOR RCAF, Sgt A. REILLY, F/Sgt C.R. CLEMENT, Sgt J.B. ANDERTON, Sgt J. DIVENS, F/Sgt J.R. CHARLEY RAAF and Sgt R. HEUGH. T/O 14h32 from Breighton. Lost in the circumstances described previously. Seven rest in Bergen op Zoom War Cemetery, while Sgt HEUGH is commemorated at Runnymede. I'd say that MacGREGOR may have been a "second dickey pilot" but that need to be confirmed. I know we have a specialist for No. 78 Squadron (Daz).

    346 Squadron, Halifax III NA555 H7-L, Capitaine J. HABLOT, Sergent-chef L. PONS, lieutenant L. de Saint MAre, Lieutenant J. WILLEMIN, Adjudant-chef W.H. PHILIPPE, Sergent N. MANICK and Sergent-chef R.F. YVARS. T/O 14h24 from Elvington. All French (not Free French as stated in Chorley, which is an abusive simplification). Homebound when believed shot down by a fighter. Several members of crew were wounded, Lt Willemin being hit in the shoulder as he baled out.
    Note : although 346 Squadron had sustained casualties since forming in May, this was the first crew to be reported missing from an operation.

    635 Squadron, Lancaster III ND453 F2-R. T/O 15h02 from Downham Market. Hit by Flak. Crashed 18h30 at Shottisham, 4 miles SE of Woodbridge in Suffolk after overshooting the nearby airfield. WOp Sgt J.D. CRABTREE was killed and is buried in Rochdale Cemetery. both air gunners Sgt T.J.A. RAYMONT and Sgt N.M. SCOTT were injured. Pilot was F/L G.A. THORNE. Bill CHORLEY added that in the post-war years, F/L THORNE was appointed editor of the RAFA magazine, airmail.

    Joss

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    Thanks Joss

    I appreciate all the time you spent typing this up for me.

    Regards
    Steve
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