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    Morning Gentlemen,

    Yet another mystery has surfaced (Or rather it hasn`t).

    It has been discovered from local sources that an aircraft was reported to have been seen in a loch on the Isle of Yell, Shetland, by a Loganair pilot back in 1971, so far apart from local heresay nothing is known about this, whether it is a wartime aircraft or civil? Does anyone have any futher info on this please? I would think it is one which has been previously identified or it would have hit the media when spotted in 1971.

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    Hello Dave,

    First...Loch, does that mean a lake or a fiord in this case? I am a lowlander from the other side of the North Sea!

    I have this proposal:

    Hudson V9195 L from 519 Sqn ditched on a Recipie patrol. Ditched 15 miles north west of Yell, Shetland, in position 60 41N 01 30W.

    T/O from RAF Skitten at 14:03 hrs on the 10/10 1944.

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    Hi Finn,

    Firstly, thanks for your quick reply didn`t know about the Hudson. Is is from an ORB? Co-ords sound a bit too accurate to be the one in the Loch (Which is Scottish for Lake) but of course it can`t be ruled out, perhaps these were last known bearings and they tried to make it back? Do you know if crew survived?

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    Dave/Finn, Hi,
    My resident Shetland mole (who was actually working there in 1971) has no memory. He regrets that he has few 'spies' on Yell - they are very parochial up there!! He will try the local 'rag'. But Finn's post saying that there might have been a 519 Sqn Met Recce Hudson on a RECIPE flight involved will, no doubt, receive considerable treatment from our Met Recce experts.
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    Hi again,

    No, details came from a crew relative. Ross McNeill probably original source back in time.

    Crew:
    F/O Thomas Norton McNulty, J/19917, RCAF +
    F/O Ross Wellington Akey, J/19916, RCAF +
    1st Lt William S Helms, O-886108, 70th Army Air Force Replacement Depot, USAAF +
    P/O John Blair, J/85915, RCAF +

    All commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, except 1st Lt Helms, who is commemorated on Tablets of the Missing at Cambridge American Cemetery Cambridge, England.

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    Yup, twas me.

    Coded L, took off RAF Skitten at 14:03 hrs.

    At 23:00 hrs an engine cut, the aircraft lost height and was ditched 15 miles north west of Yell, Shetland, in position 60 41N 001 31W.

    Position was from d/f fix.

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    Hi Finn
    In Scotland the usual use for Loch is Lake but many of them,so named, are in fact open to the sea on the W Coast and on a map would resemble Fjords although the high ground is nowhere near as spectacular as Scandinavia,at least in Norway!!
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    Thanks Finn,Peter,Ross & Dick,

    It looks like the Hudson is not the aircraft in the Loch, given the d/f fix, unless of course there was a clerical error in the records? and the aircraft flew on undetected before ditching in the Loch?

    Enquires are being made with farmers to see if anyone can recall more details, there was one story that it was a German plane, but I can`t find any lost in that area from the `Blitz Then & Now` books.

    Peter, would welcome anything that turns up in the `Shetland Times` I am sure that the pilots, one from Loganair and the other a helicopter pilot would have filed a report.

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    A few years late but,

    Has anyone found any more info on this.

    A loch is a Lake, A long narrow sea inlet is a Voe, our dialect is quite different from Scottish/English.

    There has been "unconfirmed so far" reports of a tailplane seen just above the water one very dry summer a few years ago.

    There are plans to have a look later this year.

    I'm in Shetland by the way and looking into several old stories inc this one.
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    Cairnfield, Hi,
    Shetlopedia.com seems to be long-term 'down' at the moment (don't know when it will be back 'up'). But, failing that and as you're in Shetland, have you contacted Mary Blance (one time Senior Producer/Presenter on BBC Shetland)? If she doesn't know then she will know who does!! Besides, the Blance's are thick on the ground in them parts!!
    HTH
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