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    I have Hall as the instructor who died alongside Haanes from both the ORB and 1180, the following is the only entry in the 5 (P)AFU ORB that mentioned the accidents for April 1943.

    April 1943, “Accidents for the month total 10 avoidable and 3 unavoidable - two accidents were fatal and resulted in the deaths of F/Lt G.P. Hall (48840), 1525263 Sgt P.L. Holden (Instructors) and 5269 Sgt Haanes (Norwegian pupil). The accident in which F/Lt G.P. Hall and Sgt Haanes were killed was investigated by S/Ldr R.A. Thompson of No.11 (P)AFU and Sgt Holden’s accident was investigated by S/Ldr E. Fulford of Headquarters, No.21 Group. All accidents occurred during the first eleven days of the month, and since then the Unit has been completely free of accidents.”

    Holden was onboard T8879 which crashed at Barmere House, Norbury, Cheshire. The pupil was recorded on the 1180 as Sgt 1825 D.R. Wagtskold, who was injured. I am little suspicious over the spelling of the pupil's name.
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    The pupil who was injured was:

    Wagtskjold, Oluf Regnar (RNoAF)

    /John

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    Thanks Al & John; will amend my files. Some info on WAGTSKJOLD:
    Fenrik Olaf Ragnar WAGTSKJOLD, born Bergen 14-7-1920, pilot of Spitfire PL214/A of 332 Sqn, was killed 28-2-1945 on interdiction mission of enemy gun positions. Hit by flak and struck tree tops along Oldenburgerallee and Waterweg (names of streets) twixt Putten (province Gelderland) and Nijkerk, 08.30 hrs. Initially buried at Putten his remains now rest at Solheim Cemetery, Bergen, Norway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk Welting View Post
    Defiant II - AA542 - 515 Sqn - hit balloon barrage HMS Ganges, Shotley, Suffolk (already as a casualty on this a/c: F/Sgt [WOp/Ag] H.P. MOULE - 626121, who baled out).
    Henk.
    Hello,

    Does anyone know the name of the pilot of the above Defiant ?

    Also, can someone confirm that F/Sgt Hugh Parmenter MOULE 626121 is the same AC1 H.P. MOULE who is mentioned in "The Battle of France Then and Now", as the only survivor of Lysander II L6885 which crashed at Vieux-Condé (France) on 16th May 1940 ? Pilot T.H. BORG-BANKS and air gunner LAC W.F. LAWES were initially buried near the wreck of their Lysander, later reburied in the communal cemetery. Was is common to have a crew of 3 in a army cooperation Lysander ? (I'm not talking about SD).

    TIA

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    Martinet HP263 61 OTU , Non Fatal Crash although the Pilot wa Injured , Sgt GA Wells 1321767 (the G Could be a C 1180 hard to Read), Drouge towing , E/F at 200ft, Incorrect operation of fuel cockpit Levers .

    bw phill jones

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    Phill,
    Thanks. I had C. WELLS. As TTO AC1 GARNER (no initials, no svcnr); both injured.
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    Henk,

    Could you possibly confirm your reference for AC1 GARNER?

    Kind regards,

    Tim

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    Hi Henk, Tim , The ORB for 61 OTU has the following to say Regarding Martinet HP 263,
    3/4/43, Martinet HP 263 Crsd at Prestatyn Ranges , Apparently due to Engine Trouble

    Sgt Wells & AC1 Garner ,Slightly Injured admitted to Hospital .

    Sgt Wells must have been the Pilot and AC1 GARNER was the TTO ?

    phill jones

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    Hi Phill,

    Yes you have it bang on - any chance of a copy of that specific page of the ORB?

    Thanks,

    Tim

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    Tim , i will PM YOU
    Phill

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