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    Default Help needed to find Wellington codes

    Hello folks, new on here, what a great place for information!!

    I live in Staffordshire, just near a Wellington crash site which I am fascinated with. I have a large scale radio controlled Wellington X which I would love to finish as this particular machine. I have spoken to a couple of surviving witnesses to the incident, one was a pupil at the school the Wimpy crew avoided that day, Tuesday 13th June 1944, the other lives opposite the crash site and although he was at school a few miles away at the time, he has lived at the same house all his life and remembers collecting perspex to make crucifix pendants. I have the serial numbers but cannot find the codes. The Wellington in question was a Mk.X, LP397 of 28 OTU based at Wymeswold in Leicestershire. The codes for 28 OTU a the time were apparently LB, QN and WY, but which were on this machine and what was the individual code letter? The crew on that day are listed below, all unfortunately perished in the crash.

    Joseph Star, Flying Officer, RAF Pilot
    George David Wills Buchanan, Flying Officer, RCAF Navigator
    William Corley Davis, Sergeant, RCAF Bomb Aimer
    John Frederick Potts, Sergeant, RAFVR Wireless Operator / Air Gunner
    James Joseph Ursan, Stevens Sergeant, RCAF Air Gunner
    Richard John Taylor, Sergeant, RCAF Air Gunner

    Many thanks for any information anyone can give.

    Ian.
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    Hello and welcome.
    According to rafweb.org, these were the Codes allocated to 20 OTU.
    JM Apr 1940 - Jul 1945
    XL May 1940 - Jul 1945
    YR May 1940 - Jul 1945
    ZT xxx 1940 - xxx 1943
    MK Jul 1944 - Mar 1945
    AI xxx xxxx - Mar 1945
    so regretfully, I can't make any sense out of that!!
    You may already have this info:- http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/pages/midlands/midlandslp397.htm
    and they may have more information for you.
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    Default No. 28 OTU Codes

    G'day Ian

    No. 28 Operational Training Unit was formed at Royal Air Force Station Wymeswold, Leicestershire on the 16th of May, 1942.

    Following codes used were:

    LB - May 1942 to October 1944
    Wellington Mk. IC s/n DV864 LB-X
    Wellington B. Mk. III s/n BK153 LB-B
    Wellington B. Mk. X s/n MF637 LB-B
    Wellington B. Mk. X s/n DV824 LB-Q

    QN - May 1942 to October 1944
    Wellington B. Mk. X s/n LP613 QN-O

    WY- May 1942 to October 1944
    Wellington B. Mk. X s/n LN952 WY-C

    Sources:
    Flying Units of the R.A.F. - Alan Lake

    Combat Codes - Vic Flintham and Andrew Thomas

    Royal Air Force Flying Training and Support Units- Ray Sturtivant, John Hamlin and James J. Halley (Air Britain)

    Geographical Index of R.A.F. Units October, 1944 (Air Minstry)

    Cheers...Chris

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    Cheers Kevin and Chris for the swift replies. Hopefully I can find the actual code for LP397. It'd be so nice to get it right for the model. The model is 1/4 scale so its quite a big old bird. Whats anyones ideas / views on perhaps contacting the aircrews family for details, if this is at all possible?

    Thanks again folks,

    Ian.

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    For the Canadians, and it may take many weeks or months even to get the records, you can order extracts of their service records , ask for partiular emphasis on the crash details.

    Detail on how to do this are here:
    Personnel Records Unit,
    Library and Archives Canada,
    395 Wellington Street,
    Ottawa,
    ON K1A 0N3
    Fax: (613) 947 8456
    http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogie/022-913.001.03-e.html

    To contact families, if the CWGC lists the place of origin and for the English crew members, place of burial, try the local newspaper.

    Buchanan -- Toronto
    Davis -- Toronto
    Stevens -- Quebec City
    Taylor -- Toronto

    one letter to as many papers in Toronto as you can. use google to search for the names, their relatives might be searching too.

    As luck would have it:
    Star is from Newfoundland

    Potts from Shirley, Croyden.

    Bear in mind also that the place shown as their next of kins residence might be their residence in 1948 after the war when the CWGC was doign their work.

    Sorry, have to dash.

    order their service records in any case.
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    As of the last notice I received, wait time for Cdn records from Library & Archives Canada is eight months!
    David

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