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    Default 430427 - Unaccounted airmen - 27-4-1943

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Not found in Flight Global (up to the end of 1943):
    LAC Alfred J. BIRD - 1296831 - age 34;
    LAC Frederick A. DACKOMBE - 1243016 - age 22;
    F/Sgt (Pilot) Kenneth A. DAVIES - 1382625, and
    AC2 Norman THORNTON - 1498339.

    B - Died on active service:
    Sgt Alexander W. PATE - 1367322 - 424 Sqn (Leeming, Yorkshire).

    C - Killed on active service:
    F/O (Pilot) Eric G.L. THOMPSON - 102985.

    D - Proposed aircraft losses:
    Beaufighter I - X7751 - 141 Sqn - flew into ground Predannack.
    Beaufighter I - X7547 - 29 Sqn - crashed in forced landing Kemsley, 2m N of Sittingbourne, Kent.
    Beaufighter II.F - T3022 - 132 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off East Fortune.
    Beaufort I - L9818 - 51 OTU - crashed on landing Charterhall.
    Botha I - L6172 - 11 RSW - flew into ground Hooton Park.
    Dominie I - R9553 - 24 Sqn - crashed in forced landing Rednal.
    Hurricane I - V7136 - 59 OTU - collided with Hurricane P3454 and crashed W of Belford, Northumberland.
    Hurricane I - P2754 - 56 OTU - collided with Hurricane V6913 during dummy attack and crashed, Maryton Farm, near Montrose (V6913 landed safely).
    Hurricane I - P3454 - 59 OTU - collided with Hurricane V7136 and crashed 2 miles W of Belford.
    Master II - AZ806 - 7 (P)AFU - crashed in forced landing Guntoons Road, Peterborough.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
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    Hi Henk

    Bird - not Eng/Wales
    Dackombe - Cirencester, Gloucestershire
    Davies* - Northumberland North 1st
    Thornton - Norwich, Norfolk
    Pate - Wensleydale, North Yorkshire
    Thompson* - Northumberland North 1st

    * According to Nothumberland Aviation Diary these two were both killed in the collision of V7136 and P3454, but it does specify who was in which aircraft

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    Henk

    LAC Alfred James BIRD - 1296831 - age 34 : death registered at Forres, County of Moray, Scotland.

    Douglas

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    Thanks Douglas and Malcolm for your excellent help.
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    The 56 OTU ORB recorded P2754 (P3754 in the ORB) as F/Sgt D.W.W. Bull R.A.A.F., V6913 was recorded as F/Sgt Ball.

    The ORB for No.59 OTU records the deaths of both F/Sgt Davies and F/O Thompson, though the serial numbers were not recorded.
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    Thanks Al for this additional info.
    Regards,
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    Some further information on the crash of Hurricane P2754- according to Form 765 F/Sgt's Bull and Kevin were to carry out practice attacks at 6000ft. During the practice F/Sgt Bull collided with a Hurricane flow by F/Sgt Ball who was returning from a low flying exercise.
    Douglas Walter Westlake Bull is commemorated on the Runnymead memorial as,tragically, he still lies in the remains of his cockpit in Montrose basin off Maryton Farm. The attempted recovery lasted four days and employed a total of 96 men at each low tide. Recovery was stopped due to continuing shifting of the sand banks.
    The National Archives of Australia reference is 166/6/124.
    Summary of the recovery is page 31 with Form 765 on pages 41-43.

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    Henk, I think Wensleydale is the right area for Leeming airfield - re Pate.

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    LAC Alfred J. BIRD - 1296831 - age 34; There is an LAC A J M Bird DOAS in the Sep 9th 1943, no matching name on CWGC so must be a typo.

    LAC Frederick A. DACKOMBE - 1243016 - age 22; Found DOAS July 8th 1943 magazine.

    F/Sgt (Pilot) Kenneth A. DAVIES - 1382625, KOAS in the same list as Thompson

    AC2 Norman THORNTON - 1498339. Can't find him flight either

    HENK: Note for the 6th JULY 1943, LAC M J Sullivan is DOAS, the name is obscured in the page of the flight magazine, I doubt I'll recall it when the time comes around!
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    Hi Henk,

    Beaufighter I - X7751 - 141 Sqn - flew into ground Predannack.
    F1180 gives two fatalities, Pilot F/L A I Stuart RAAF 403383

    Rooting about gives the second fatality as:
    P/O Thomas Benson Blackburn RNZAF, 39197

    Beaufighter I - X7547 - 29 Sqn - crashed in forced landing Kemsley, 2m N of Sittingbourne, Kent.
    Pilot F/O R J Croome RCAF J/8645 injured

    Beaufighter II.F - T3022 - 132 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off East Fortune.
    Sgt F P Stranger RAAF 413683 safe

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