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    Default 430518 - Unaccounted airwomen and airmen - 18-5-1943

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Died on active service:
    ACW2 Clarice L. ALLEN - 475512.

    B - Not found in Flight Global:
    Major Ernest B. BALLARD - 258 - Royal Artillery attd 655 (AOP) Sqn - see under 'D'.

    C - Killed on active service:
    ACW1 Helen R. BRAND - 2116411 - 935 (Balloon) Sqn (Filton);
    Sgt (Pilot) John J. COOPER - 1214085;
    LACW Mary MacASKILL - 2045888 - 953 (Balloon) Sqn (Cardiff - or was this a printing error and should read 935 Sqn like ACW1 Brand and LACW Stannard, both of 935 Sqn Filton ?);
    F/Lt (Flying Instr.) Kenneth R. MASON - 66563;
    F/O (Flying Instr.) Harold RATHBONE - 112726, and
    LACW Betty M. STANNARD - 2068971 - 935 (Balloon) Sqn (Filton).

    D - Proposed aircraft losses:
    Gladiator II - L8031 - 1624 Flt - crashed on landing Detling.
    Tiger Moth II - T6854 - 4 EFTS - crashed on landing Brough.
    Tiger Moth II - T7183 - 25 (P)EFTS - flew into ground Longdale Farm, Blidworth, Nottinghamshire (have a Polish airman unaccounted for on this date: F/O [Pilot] Tomasz SZYMONSKI (SZYMANSKI) PAF P.0607 - probably of 102 OTU and buried in the Corstorphine Hill Cemetery, Edinburgh, Scotland, but not listed on a paper of PAF-graves in the UK taken care for by the CWGC.
    Tiger Moth II - N9189 - 4 EFTS - crashed on overshoot Bellasize (county not known).
    Defiant II - AA569 - 286 Sqn - crashed on take-off Harrowbeer.
    Hampden I - AD857 - 7 FPP - crashed in foced landing Sherburn-in-Elmet.
    Beaufort II - AW314 - 5 (C)OTU - crashed on landing Long Kesh.
    Auster III - NJ986 - 653 (AOP) Sqn - flew into ground Chigwell Row, Essex.
    Auster III - NJ988 - 6 FPP - dived into ground Manor Farm Field, 2 miles S of Chedworth.

    Regards andthansk for your help.
    Henk.

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    Henk,
    Bellasize is in Yorkshire - but which bit in WW2 and/or which bit now I don't know.
    HTH
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    Hi Henk
    Clarice Allen,23, registered at Worcester
    Ballard,32, registered at Epping,Essex which is the right area for Chigwell and NJ986
    The Balloon Sqn could be 953 as both Brand and Stannard are registered at Cardiff. I couldn't find MacKaskill
    Cooper,20, Mason,29, and Rathbone,31 are registered at Howden E Yorkshire.The area was in fact split in 1933 between Howdenshire and Holderness both in E Yorks just N of the River Humber
    Regards
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    Henk,

    Bellsize is 4m NE of Goole, I suspect the three casualties recorded at Howden are split between the two TMs N9189 and T8654.

    regards

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    Henk

    Although LACW Mary MacASKILL - 2045888 is buried in Kincardine Cemetery Ross and Cromarty, I cannot find her death registed in the Scottish Statutory Records.

    I have found some information regarding F/O [Pilot] Tomasz SZYMONSKI. He died in Auchentroig Hospital, Drymen in the County of Stirling, Scotland. He was 42 years old and his cause of death is not recorded as being due to war operations or any trauma caused by an aircraft crash.

    Douglas

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    Mary McAskill is spelled as shown in the Cardiff register.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Thanks friends for all your excellent info. Our "Yorkshire-specialist" for sure will come up with more info on the airmen registered at Howden.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Dear Henk
    Hampden I - AD857 - 7 FPP - crashed in foced landing Sherburn-in-Elmet.

    Hampden & Hereford crash log: AD857 7FPP 18/05/43 U/c collapsed after engine failure at Sherburn-in-Elmet at 11.50hrs while ferrying. Cat B

    Hampden File: AD857 106/408/7FPP 18/5/43 Crashed after engine failure Sherburn-in-Elmet Flt Capt JE Martens ATA unhurt Ferry

    http://www.sherburn-aero-club.org.uk/
    http://wikimapia.org/2249905/Former-RAF-Sherburn-in-Elmet
    http://www.airfields-in-yorkshire.co.uk/sherburn/
    http://www.oldairfields.fotopic.net/c1356251.html

    I hope this is what you were after
    Best wishes
    James

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    Thanks James for info on Hampden.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Henk, I've been away with work and have just spotted this one!

    Hampden AD857, confirm what has been said previously, Cpt J E Martens ATA, was the pilot.

    The Tiger Moths at Bellasize / Brough I have little info on, N9189 collided with T7777 and caught fire. T6854 was deemed beyond repair after a heavy landing. Bellasize is on the north side of the Humber. Cooper, Mason and Rathbone would probably fit for the collision as their deaths are in the right area but I cannot confirm who was in what at the moment.

    regards Rich

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