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    Default French casualty 21/22 Oct 1941

    Hi All

    Does any one have details of an accident, probably involving an aircraft of 5 SFTS at Ternhill in which a French pilot was killed by tha name of Armand Paul Guy Bayard or Maurice Delecray?

    All the best

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    Hello Malcolm,

    22 October 1941,, Sgt Pelacray, Miles Master N7485 of 5 FTS.

    I will give the credit of the details to:

    Military aircraft crashes in the north west Midlands - 1938 to 1941

    Link, where you can find more details.

    http://www.couplandbell.com/marg/nwcrashes1938-1941.htm

    Regards

    Finn Buch

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    Hi Finn

    That sound like the one, there is obviously a mistake on the website regarding his name as my request was on behalf of a member of his family which is Delecray, I have contacted the webmaster to inform him.

    All the best

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    Hello,

    He's mentioned on pages 69-70 of "Aviateurs de la Liberté". He was Armand BAYARD, aka Maurice DELECRAY.

    Born on 19th December 1920 in Paris, he joined the army for the duration of war in December 1939. He then asks for his transfer to the Armée de l'air as a pupil-pilot. In January 1940, he started a course at Ecole de Pilotage n° 29 in Rochefort. Later (April ?) he's posted to Ecole de Pilote n° 31 in Saumur, and will follow the school during the retreat in the Gironde area (near Bordeaux). Demobbed on 18 August, he gets back to Paris. He leaves the capital on 1st November 1941 for Marseille, then Algiers and Casablanca in order to reach the Free French, via Gibraltar, where he arrives on 29 December.
    After the Franco-Belgian school at Odiham, he's posted on 14 May 1941 to No. 5 SFTS.
    He had been promoted to Sergeant-chef (flight sergeant) on 5th August, and was posthumesly promoted to sous-lieutenant. He's buried in Market Drayton.

    The book doesn't give the serial number but I've added in pencil in my copy "Master I N7485 crashed at Gnosall, Staffs".

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    The ORB doesn't give much, but here is what it says

    October 22nd 1941, “Master N7845 crashed at Gnosall, the pilot, Sergt Delecray Free French pupil of No.64 Course, being killed.”
    Alan Clark

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    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Malcolm,

    The on-line French Ministry of Defence casualty database records him as:

    Nom: BAYARD
    Surnom: DELACRAY Maurice
    Prenom: Armand Paul Guy
    DOB: 19-12-1920
    Unit: 5 Service Flying Training School
    DOD: 22-10-1941
    Cause of Death: Flying Training Accident
    File Number: AC-21P-16014

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    Hi Ken

    Many thanks for that , it confirms the other information from his family except the family spell their surname Delecray not Delacray.

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm,

    My bad, the French record is indeed DELECRAY vice DELACRAY.

    Cheers, Ken

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    Ken

    What is the web address for the French casualty online database. I have had it before but have lost the link

    Thanks

    Paul

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    http://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/spip.php?rubrique45

    www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr

    Click the language to English in top right corner.

    The database presents the information like this:

    Name BAYARD
    Nickname DELECRAY Maurice
    Spouse
    First name Armand Paul Guy
    Birthdate 19-12-1920
    City of birth Paris 14e
    Birthplace 75 - SEINE
    Hierarchy sous lieutenant
    Unit 5 Service Training Flying School (unité d'entrainement de la RAF) - Forces aériennes françaises libres (FAFL)
    Mort pour la France Mort pour la France
    date of death 22-10-1941
    Common death Ternhill
    Place of death Angleterre
    Incident accident aérien lors d'un vol d'entrainement
    Status militaire - AIR
    Cote du dossier AC-21P-16014
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 5th July 2010 at 08:36.
    Dennis Burke
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    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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