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    Default Dornier 17Z northeast coast of Scotland 9 May 1940

    On 9 May 1940 a Dornier 17Z of Wekusta 1 was shot down off the northeast coast of Scotland whilst on a met reconnaissance sortie. The "Wekusta" book to which I referred in my earlier Heinkell thread, records "A British air-sea rescue motorboat that salvaged the dead aircrew may also have searched the floating wreck and found a copy of the Zenit codebook."

    Elsewhere the book records the aircraft exploded on impact and that the scene was attended by an RNLI lifeboat which "salvaged the body of a crew member". Two rather different accounts of the same incident. Could I ask if anyone has any details of the incident - particularly concerning the role played by the lifeboat. The RAF unit involved was 605 Squadron based at Wick.

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    Hi Brian,

    My notes have:

    Wekusta Ob.d.L
    Shot down by No.43 Sqn and No.605 Sqn into the North Sea off Dunnet Head at 11:45 hrs. Obfw Fally's body was recovered and now rests in Cannock Chase Military Cemetery.

    No entry of Service or no service by either lifeboat or shore boat in RNLI Rescue records so I would suspect that the body was recovered by the RAFHSL/Pinnace from the Marine Unit.

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    Much obliged Ross. I suppose my next question is to ask which files include the ORBs for the Marine Units (not sure which keyword to use) - unless someone has the file for the unit covering the seas off north Scotland.

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    Well the answer to the "next question" is:

    ASR/MCU - Air Sea Rescue/Marine Craft Unit

    Unit Location PRO File
    No.1 Lerwick AIR29/441
    No.2 Shapinsay/Orkney AIR29/441
    No.4 Wick AIR29/441
    No.6 Invergordon AIR29/441
    No.7 Burgh Head AIR29/441
    No.8 Buckie AIR29/441
    No.9 Fraserburgh AIR29/442
    No.10 Torry/Aberdeen AIR29/442
    No.11 Montrose AIR29/442
    No.12 Tayport AIR29/442
    No.14 Berwick-Upon-Tweed AIR29/442
    No.15 Blyth AIR29/442
    No.17 Scalloway AIR29/443
    No.21 Bridlington AIR29/443
    No.22 Grimsby AIR29/443
    No.23 Wells AIR29/443
    No.24 Lowestoft/Gorleston AIR29/443
    No.26 Felixstowe AIR29/444
    No.27 Ferry Dock/ Dover AIR29/445
    No.28 Newhaven AIR29/446
    No.29 Littlehampton AIR29/446
    No.30 Calshot/Gosport/Cowes AIR29/446
    No.31 Sheerness AIR29/446
    No.32 Calshot/Ostende AIR29/446
    No.33 Calshot/Norway AIR29/447
    No.36 Poole AIR29/447
    No.37 Lyme Regis AIR29/447
    No.38 Exemouth AIR29/447
    No.39 Torquay AIR29/447
    No.40 Weymouth AIR29/447
    No.41 Salcombe AIR29/447
    No.42 Newlyn AIR29/447
    No.43 Mountbatten AIR29/447
    No.44 Padstow AIR29/448
    No.45 Barry AIR29/448
    No.46 Porthcawl AIR29/448
    No.47 Aberystwyth AIR29/448
    No.48 Tenby AIR29/448
    No.49 Goodwick AIR29/448
    No.51 Pwllheli AIR29/448
    No.52 Fleetwood AIR29/448
    No.53 Fleetwood AIR29/448
    No.54 Isle of Man AIR29/448
    No.55 Kirkcudbright AIR29/448
    No.56 Portaferry AIR29/448
    No.57 Donaghadee AIR29/448
    No.58 Larne AIR29/448
    No.60 Culmore AIR29/448
    No.61 Campbeltown AIR29/448
    No.62 Lochboisdale AIR29/448
    No.63 Menai Bridge AIR29/449
    No.64 Drummore, Ayr AIR29/449
    No.65 Oban AIR29/449
    No.66 Stornoway AIR29/449
    No.67 Port Ellen AIR29/449

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    Shucks, I've been trying to put off visiting the NA but the number of 'minor' matters is beginning to build up so I might be forced along the M3.

    Thank you Ross.

    Brian

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    Default Do 17 9 May 1940

    I have been through the Scottish-based MCU records and none refers to this incident.

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    Many thanks Keith, that's most unexpected and I'm very much obliged. That rather puts paid to the idea that the body of one of the crew was recovered near the scene of the impact.

    Actually looking at the 'Wekusta' book again the authors describe one of the crew bailing out before the Dornier impacted on the water - but then assume that body was recovered. Mmm, guess I'll have to write to them (again).

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    Default We never slept (605 Squadron)

    Does anyone have a copy of "We never slept" by Ian Piper (the story of 605 Squadron), or even "605" by the same author? The first appeared in 1997, not sure about the second - or even if it's the same book under adifferent title. If so does either include a reference to the incident on 9 May 1940?

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    Last edited by Lyffe; 12th August 2010 at 15:50. Reason: Uncertainty about book title

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    Hello Brian,

    I have the latter, "605", which is more a photographic history of the Squadron. No mention of this event. The answer is likely to be in "We never slept", which I unfortunately don't have (yet).

    "605" was first published in 2003 (ISBN No 0 9529516 1 4)

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    Much obliged Joss, at least I know which one to order from the library.

    The Times for 10 May carries quite a long item about the combat and aftermath as it was apparently witnessed by a lot of people. The crew member who bailed out actually survived the descent and the 605 Sqn pilot called out a launch to rescue him; unfortunately he was dead by the time it arrived. The big puzzle now is that previous posts advise neither the RNLI nor the ASR/MCU were called out that day - so where did the rescue boat come from?

    Quote from The Times

    "They (the Hurricane pilots) reported the position by radio-telephone and a launch was immediately dispatched. Flying to and fro between the launch and swimming German, they directed the rescue, but when the launch reached the enemy airman he was dead."

    Brian
    Last edited by Lyffe; 12th August 2010 at 20:34. Reason: Second thoughts

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