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    Hello,

    Trying to positively identify the location of the 1939-45 airfield in Iraq known as K.2. Jefford's RAF Squadrons identifies K.1 (Kirkuk) and K.3 (Haditha), but not K.2 (not interested in present-day K-2 Base).

    Can anyone help?

    Col.

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    Col,
    Have a look at the map in:

    http://www.robertehill.co.uk/london-to-baghdad-by-car.html

    You will see that (in 1955) K2 was - not unsurprisingly - between K1 and K3! But the distances, by road, are given as being 100km from K1 and 150km from K3. Or, roughly, where the road(?) and/or pipeline(?) crosses the river. I can't see anything on GE, but if you stare long enough at an aerial foto you will find something (LOL).
    HTH
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    Peter,

    Thanks for that. Suprisingly, the map was very helpful. I'm not going anywhere near GE, my eyesight is bad enough as it is!

    Cross-referencing with other sources, I would say the location is Tikrit, which is on the Tigris.

    The cause of all this bother is:

    19-2-1943
    No.1438 (S.R.) Flight
    Blenheim IV T2043

    Took off Habbaniyah 1410. At 1500 port engine started missing, aircraft lost height and airscrew struck the water causing the aircraft to ditch near K.2 ( - ? - ), in 3'.6" of water.

    - - ? - - Sgt (Pilot) D ROBERTS - Injured
    984794 Sgt (Nav.) Robert TOPPING RAFVR - ?
    AUS404143 W/O (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Malachi Denis KELLY RAAF - Uninjured
    AUS400828 F/O (Passenger) James GRAY RAAF - Injured

    Gray sustained two fractured ankles, and was admitted to 33 C.G.H. Kirkuk, later transferred to RAF General Hospital, Habbaniyah.

    Most refs have T2043 crash-landing near Mosul. Must be the sun!

    Thanks for your help. This one has been kicking around for a while.

    Any further comments welcomed.

    By the way. The vehicle pictured on that site, ain't no Vauxhall. Looks more like a De Soto to me!

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 5th August 2010 at 07:33. Reason: Correction on Tipping/Topping - per Denis Burke

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    Wow! how rare is this, found an NCO number in the LG

    Gazette Issue 36653 published on the 11 August 1944. Page 2 of 8
    ROYAL AIR FORGE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Pit. Offs. on prob. (emergency): —
    Wt. Offs.
    24th May 1944.
    984794 Robert TOPPING (178570).
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Hello,


    K2 located between Tikrit and Ain Dibis
    Lat : 34°55' N
    Long 43°234 E

    Few info on google : K2 airfield Iraq.

    Regards

    René

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    Hi Col

    Not taking away from the seriousness of the accident - can't have been a nice experience to break both ankles - I was amused by the comment that the aircraft ditched in 3 feet 6 inches of water. Not 3 feet - not 4 feet - no, 3 feet 6 inches! Someone waded back in to the crash site to measure the EXACT depth?!?! Ah, the military, gotta love 'em... :-)

    Steve

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    Dennis,Rene & Steve,

    Dennis, Thanks. Have edited posting.

    Rene, thank you. The report did state, 'near K.2'.

    Steve, The pilot (Roberts), had warned his crew (and passenger), to take up crash positions. Gray complied, and had the navigator (Topping), sitting on his knee! The aircraft struck the water tail first, slamming the nose down and bringing the aircraft to an abrupt halt. Gray had both feet braced against the plywood floor, causing his feet to smash through the the timber, entrapping him. It took several minutes to extract him.

    Gray (a navigator himself), was N/E for a while. He later served with No.267 Squadron, flying transport and supply dropping operations, mainly to Northern Italy and Yugoslavia. He survived the war and had a long career in the post-war RAAF.

    Cheers,

    Col.
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    Hi Col

    Where did you get the information about the accident.

    The AM Form 1180 Crash Card for this incident gives the following info.

    Bristol Blenheim IV T2043.

    The Pilot was 1190392 Sgt D.K. Roberts. 97 hours flying experience on type, his service number may have been 1190394 he was involved in another accident on the 8/Feb/1944 while on a delivery flight with 2 ADU, delivering Martin Baltimore III AG892

    The mission was a Unit Move. 2 were injured in the accident. Take off time. 0500.

    Note; A/C hit water low flying, damaged airscrews, force landed in water. Engineering officer; No defect. Commanding officer Pilot to blame. Station CO; Summary of evidence. Disobedient of Flying regs. Aircraft Cat B.

    The Drome was Mosul, unfortunately the place of the accident is not very clear on the 1180.

    Pel

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    Hit on London Gazette

    Douglas Kenneth ROBERTS (1190392). 21st June
    1956 (period of service to count from 10th Mar.
    1949).

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    For Col (and any others involved!)
    I do not wish to pick nits - but I suppose I am!!!
    There is clearly an airfield on Google Earth at c. 34 55N 43 23E which is labelled K2. Is this the K2 in the question asked by Col? This might (just, might) have it's origins before (and during WW2), but its present configuration of a couple of parallel NW/SE runways is definitely not WW2? There is also, possibly, a (now disused?) secondary NE/SW runway. That may be pre- and during WW2. I regret that I do not know (tsk, tsk!) the prevailing surface winds in them parts.
    There is also (even to my untutored eye) a fair amount of aviation hardware on the airfield, and in the surrounding areas.
    Have you thought about 'flying a kite' for "K2" on the Airfield Information Exchange site? Those guys - if they don't know - will know who does!
    HTH
    Peter Davies
    Meteorology is a science; good meteorology is an art!
    We might not know - but we might know who does!

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