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    Hello,

    On 28 March 1943, Ferry Command Baltimore III FA427, crashed and burned on take-off at Nassau. In Ocean bridge, by Carl A. Christie (p.318), the pilot is given as; Elwood Palmer WALMSLEY - American civilian pilot.

    His Radio operator, Radio Officer William Frederick MORRIS RAFFC, was killed and is commemorated on the Nassau Memorial, in the Bahamas.

    Can someone tell me what happened to Walmsley?

    Thanks.

    Col.
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    if his name is listed in Ocean Bridge then he was killed, (Not sure if thats what your asking?)

    Strangely he is listed in the Social Security Death Index for the US, strange because the SS numbers didn;t come about until the 1960's I thought. Entry is thus:

    Name: Elwood Walmsey
    SSN: 345-07-3665
    Born: 3 Nov 1914
    Died: Mar 1943
    State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)

    Thats the only return for Elwood Walmsey in ancestry but I'd need to play around with spellings etc.
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    He is mentioned in at the back of Brief Glory by Cheeseman


    so probably ended up in ATA and was not a casualty or was in ATA BEFORE ???

    First Officer WALMSLEY, Elwood Palmer (Canada)

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    Name: Elwood P Walmsley
    Service Info.: CPT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
    Birth Date: 3 Nov 1914
    Death Date: 28 Mar 1943
    Interment Date: 15 Feb 1949
    Cemetery: Puerto Rico National Cemetery
    Cemetery Address: P. O. Box 1298 168 National Cemetery Avenue Bayamon, PR 00961-1298
    Buried At: Section B Site 142

    from the
    National Cemetery Administration. U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
    Original data: National Cemetery Administration. Nationwide Gravesite Locator
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    he is on another ancestry database but not on abmc.org as far as i can make out.

    Name: Elwood P Walmsley
    Inducted From: Illinois
    Rank: not Recorded
    Combat Organization: United States Civilian
    Death Date: 28 Mar 1943
    Monument: Puerto Rico
    Last Known Status: Buried

    Original data: National Archives and Records Administration. Register, World War II Dead Interred in American Military Cemeteries on Foreign Soil and World War II and Korea Missing or Lost or Buried at Sea. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration.
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    Ignore he was in ATA Before 1943!

    From Gooogle News

    "FLYER WITH RAF FOR YEAR NEVER SEES NAZI PLANE
    Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 2, 1942
    more dangerous That's how First Officer Elwood Walmsley 27 years old de scribes h Is 12 months as a in England with the RAF air transport iary a branch of ..."


    He was from Chicago


    CHICAGO FLYER TO LEAVE TODAY FOR BRITISH DUTY
    Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 29, 1941
    Elwood P Walmsley the 5Oth Chi cago area pilot to be recruited for the. Elwood P Walmaley. Canadian or Brit ish air services wilt leave today for Montreal ...


    Prehaps Chris should add him to the ATA Casualty list???

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    And actually born in Canada: naturilisation from 1939

    Name: Elwood Palmer Walmsley
    Birth Date: 3 Nov 1914
    Birth Place: Canada - Great Britain
    Age at event: 25
    Place of Residence: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
    Date of Action: 6 Dec 1939
    Collection Title: Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions for the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9, 1840-1950 (M1285)
    NARA Series #: M1285
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    Dennis/Paul,

    I thank you both. Certainly clears up the whereabouts of Mr Walmsley!

    The surprising part about all this, is the fact that the navigator survived what must have been a pretty bad crash. He was, AUS411550 P/O Peter Leonard TAYLOR RAAF. Taylor was injured, but I don't know the extent of his injuries. Hence my query.

    The Baltimore swung on take-off from Oakes Field in the Bahamas, hit an obstruction and was destroyed by fire.

    Nice One!

    Col.

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    Woow this was an interesting find. The radio operator mentioned here, William Frederick Morris, was my Father.
    I have been trying to find out more about the circumstances of his death. This event took place very soon after William "Bill" married my mother Rhoda, in Nassau. His untimelly death must have been so traumatic for her that she would never speak about it. This gave me alot of problems when in 1973 the Bahamas became independent As I was born there.
    All I have been able to find out so far is that William Morris was a civilian. So what was he doing there? what was the purpose of this last flight? , So many questions unaswered over the years. If any one has any snipettes of information I would be very grateful.
    I am new to this site, so I suppose that you can contact me via the site.

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    Hello Don,

    welcome to the board.

    The aircraft would have been on its way to be delivered to the pool of aircraft available for fighting in North Africa.

    Ferry Command used large numbers of civilian contractors as crew on these flights. For a good background on the subject you coudl try to get a copy of the book Ocean Bridge the story of Ferry Commands operations. Your father and crew are listed there in.

    Since there was an australian airman named P/O Peter Leonard TAYLOR 411550 you can go to the Australian national archvies and request to have his casualty records scanned and this might be the quickest way to find out details of the crash. their website is
    http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

    then clcik on search now as a guest
    and search for the terms Taylor 411550
    Follow the directions on the website and you can order the documents to be scanned.

    Also, contact the Canadian DHH
    http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/adh-sdh/index-eng.asp

    And they might have a copy of your late fathers Crew Card which might include a photo and list of the aircraft he helped to Ferry Across the Atlantic and else where.

    I hope this is a help for a start.
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