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    Hello,

    Seeking full service history/fate of Wellington VIII HX774. Could someone with the relevant A-B Volume please help?

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    Col.

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    Col - My AB serial book gives HX774 as having served with 547/1 TTU (Torpedo Training Unit Turnberry). Flew into sea 1/2 mile S of Brest Rock Ayrshire 07/08/1943.
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    Chris,

    I thank you for sorting out a knotty problem. Quite a bit of duff gen on this one, like - No.1(C) OTU, Wellington PX 774!

    7-8-1943
    No.1 TTU
    Wellington VIII HX774

    Seen flying over sea at 0434 in northerly direction about 600yds south-west of Turnberry airfield, losing height rapidly. The target ship "Heliopolis", contacted base and stated that they believed the aircraft had crashed into the sea.

    1313849 F/Sgt (Pilot) Derrick Ralph SORENSEN RAFVR + (Australian serving in the RAF)
    1435307 Sgt (Pilot) James Leonard WEBBER RAFVR +
    1319841 Sgt (Nav./E) John Leonard HISCOCK RAFVR +
    AUS30881 F/Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Fredrick John WRIGHT RAAF +
    1134186 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Eric Williams HIRST RAFVR +
    1384929 Sgt ( - ? - ) Ernest Leslie PADFIELD RAFVR +

    Padfield and Wright RAAF, commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. Sorensen buried Dunure Cemetery, the others buried under private arrangements.

    Col.

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    Col

    This may have nothing to do with the Wellington crash but less than 12 hours after F/Sgt. Sorensen and three of his crew were found in the sea off Brest Rock, Turnberry, the Scottish Statutory Death records indicate that four other aircrew were found in Mochrum Wood, Kirkoswald, Ayrshire at 3.45 p.m. on 7 August 1943. They were as follows : -

    F/O John Henry Willox Johnstone 414043 RAAF (Pilot)
    F/Sgt. Eric Douglas Lee 414413 RAAF (Obs).
    F/Sgt. Sydney Raymond Greer 417028 RNZAF (W.Op/AG)
    F/O Leslie Norman Buttimore 417194 RNZAF (W.Op/AG)

    On 23 August 1943, the body of Sgt. Robert Davie-Speirs 1382723 RAF (W.Op/AG) was found in the sea 1 mile off Culzean, Ayrshire.

    Could it be just co-incidence that another aircraft was lost in the same area on the same date? Certainly Kirkoswald is no more than 6 miles from Turnberry and Culzean is only another 6-7 miles North of Turnberry.

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    Thanks Col, they were all still on my list unaccounted for.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hello Douglas,

    Buttimore, Greer, Johnstone and Lee were lost on the 7-8-1943 in No.1 TTU Hampden TB.I X3026, which flew into a high hill in low cloud and rain at Mochrum Wood, 2 miles west of Maybole.

    Col.
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    Douglas,
    JOHNSTONE, LEE, BUTTIMORE and GREER were killed on 1 TTU Hampden X3026.
    Op to this moment have no answer on Sgt DAVIE-SPEIRS; will check.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Dear Col
    It looks like Mochrum Wood was a dangerous place. See Malcolm's thread on July 1942....

    Hampden & Hereford Crash Log
    P2100 5(C)OTU 19/7/42 Flew into steep hill in good visibility at 10.45 hrs and burnt, Mockrum Wood, 2m SW of Maybole, Ayrshire. Local flying One killed, Cat E

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello Douglas,

    Buttimore, Greer, Johnstone and Lee were lost on the 7-8-1943 in No.1 TTU Hampden TB.I X3026, which flew into a high hill in low cloud and rain at Mochrum Wood, 2 miles west of Maybole.

    Col.
    Col / Henk

    Thanks for the information.

    Douglas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk Welting View Post
    Douglas,
    JOHNSTONE, LEE, BUTTIMORE and GREER were killed on 1 TTU Hampden X3026.
    Op to this moment have no answer on Sgt DAVIE-SPEIRS; will check.
    Regards,
    Henk.
    Henk

    The Scottish National War Memorial site has Sgt. Davie-Speirs as being RAFVR C.C. which I assume is Coastal Command. He was born in Glasgow.

    Douglas

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