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    Hi All

    According to TSGNO the six below were in the same Hudson which crashed in Pembrokeshire

    PAGE, DONALD FREDERICK (R/69485) RCAF - age 29 Flt Sgt
    BELEC, GILBERT GERARD (R/90570) RCAF - age 23 Flt Sgt
    KELLAS, JAMES MACNICHOL (83369) RAFVR - age Unknown Flt Lt
    KING, CYRIL FRANK (37046) RAF - age 26 Wg Cdr
    HUDDLESTON, LESLIE ERIC LETCHFORD (R/114748) RCAF - age 21 Flt Sgt
    WARD, HENRY WILLIAM (1184917) RAFVR - age Unknown Flt Sgt

    Huddleston, Page and Belec are all registered in Pembroke, but King and Kellas are all registered in Bodmin and Ward is on Runnymede, so unlikely to be all in the same aircraft

    AM646 flew into high ground in Pembrokeshire, so likely candidate for Huddleston, Page and Belec.

    Two other 407 aircraft appear to being missing on this date, one flying into high ground near Carew Cheriton and the other failing to return from the Bay of Biscay. The three below are registered in Bodmin which fits with the loss near Carew Cheriton, but does anyone what aircraft they were in?

    WORTHINGTON, RAYMOND OLIVER (J/6484) RCAF - age 25 Fg Off
    KELLAS, JAMES MACNICHOL (83369) RAFVR - age Unknown Flt Lt
    KING, CYRIL FRANK (37046) RAF - age 26 Wg Cdr

    The two below are listed on Runnymede (together with Ward) so are likely to have been lost over Biscay, can anyone identify their aircraft?

    SHOOK, CARL CLYNTON (R/103000) RCAF - age 20 Flt Sgt
    VALETTE, MICHAEL BERNARD (R/54947) RCAF - age 22 Sgt

    All the best

    Malcolm

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    407 Squadron History (Procter) lists two losses on 3rd November;

    AM646 ('J')
    Crashed into hill on low-level bombing practice.
    R114748 Sgt L.E.L. Huddlestone, Captain, killed
    R90570 Sgt G.G. Belec, Observer, killed
    R69485 Sgt D.F. Page, WAG, died of injuries
    R85102 Sgt A. Maier, WAG, seriously injured

    AM648 ( )
    Crashed into sea off Newquay on low-level bombing practice
    37046 W/C C.F. King, Captain, killed
    R103000 Sgt C.C. Shook, Observer, missing
    J8484 F/O R.O. Worthington, WAG, killed
    1184917 F/Sgt H.W. Ward, WAG, missing
    R54947 Sgt M.B. Valette, passenger, missing
    83369 F/L J.M. Kellas, armament, killed

    Ian Macdonald

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    Many thanks Ian

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    Malcolm

    Carew Cheriton is in Pembrokeshire. The casualties you cite are connected with the loss of Hudson V AM646 which fhg at Kilpaison. From an unremembered source:-

    "The Western Telegraph has helped find information about two Pembrokeshire men who rescued a Canadian airman from the wreckage of a burning plane 62 years ago.Sergeant Alex Maier, now 84, was the sole survivor of the crew of a Coastal Command Lockheed Hudson, which crashed near Kilpaison, on November 3rd, 1942.He knew he had been rescued by 'two local lads' but never discovered their names. He told his story to a Canadian friend, Dave Smith, who began making enquiries through e-mail to trace the rescuers.
    After the story appeared in the Western Telegraph, Mr Kelvin Morgans, of Merchants Park, Pembroke, rang the newspaper.He said the two men who rescued Sergeant Maier were carpenter William Abrahams and his son John, of Rhoscrowther. Sadly both are now dead.
    Three of the plane's crew were killed and are buried at Angle Church Cemetery. Ironically Mr Abrahams was also the local undertaker and may well have made their coffins.Mr Morgans recalled: "I was eight when the plane crashed. My father was in the Home Guard and they were called out to guard the plane overnight with the RAF."
    "The plane crashed while taking part in a training run, dropping smoke bombs on a target off Kilpaison."It went out to sea and came back in too low and hit the trees and hedges." A hole in the hedge is still visible.
    Mr Morgans, who saw the wreckage the day after the crash, said the plane was cut up and taken away by the RAF.The information given by Mr Morgans was passed on to Mr Maier by Dennis Alderman, of Castlemartin.Retired farmer, Mr Alderman became interested in the crash after hearing about it during research for his book Castlemartin - a Chuckle and Cackle.
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    Last edited by davew; 2nd September 2010 at 16:09. Reason: typo

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    Hi Dave

    My error I don't know why I linked Carew Cheriton to Bodmin, I was trying to separate what appeared to be three different incidents in TSGNO which turned out to be just two, clearlly the bodies registered in Bodmin where washed ashore further up the coast.

    Malcolm

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