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    Default P Rathie dfc 261 squadron d.o.d. 21/07/1943

    I have just been given the DFC belonging to my grandmother's cousin, P Rathie. I have tried to do some research on him, and noted a very old post from 22nd Sept 2006 about him, discussing the posthumous award of honours and the mention "w.e.f. 20/07/43". I have what I think is the citation in the medal case - or at least something which states that on HM orders his name was mentioned in despatches, and recorded in the London Gazette. He did die on 21 July 1943, but the mention on the paper says that it was to be recorded in the Gazette of 1st Jan 1943, so clearly he must have received it before. Does anyone know whether there is anywhere which has a list of the reasons a DFC was awarded. I'd dearly love to know.
    many thanks
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    F/Lt Peter Rathie 88467 DFC
    Singapore Memorial - 155 Squadron
    http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1815943

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/35028/pages/7299
    Peter's commishion as an officer from the rank of Leading Aircraftman is printed in the London Gazette
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    The undermentioned are granted commissions for the duration of hostilities
    As Pilot Officers on probation.
    25th NOV. 1940.
    (Seniority 5th Nov. 1940.)
    902221 Peter RATHIE (88467).

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/35366/pages/6897
    The above is his promotion to Flying Officer rank

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/35841/pages/42

    his Mention in Despatches
    Gazette Issue 35841 published on the 29 December 1942. Page 38 of 54
    SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, i JANUARY; 1943
    Flying Officer
    P. RATHIE (88467), R.A.F.V.R.

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/35981/supplements/1747
    his promotion to Flight Lt.

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37590/supplements/2673

    Air Ministry, 4th June, 1946.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the following awards.
    Distinguished Flying Cross
    Flight Lieutenant
    Peter RATHIE (88467), R.A.F.V.R., 261 Sqn., with effect from 20th July, 1943 (since deceased).



    So what you have is evidence of TWO, not one, awards he received.

    He first was awarded a Mention in Despatches

    and then a Postumous DFC. Published in 1946 but 'back dated' to 1943.

    here is the old thread you mentioned for everyone else's sake, save them searching for it:
    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=printer_format&om=9839&forum=DCForu mID6
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    There are several mentions of Rathie (including a couple of pics), whilst flying with 155 Squadron, in Mohawks over Burma by Gerry Beauchamp.

    According to the book he had only transferred to 261 a month or so before he was killed.

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    Wow, thanks chaps, that's already more than I knew.

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    Hi Fiona

    He also flew at Malta and is mentioned in one of my books. Do you wish to know more?

    Best

    Brian

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    gosh, yes, absolutely I'd love to know more. My dad gave me the medal 2 weeks ago to keep for my son as he's the nearest direct male descendant of that side of the family, and I know nothing to tell him. I don't even know what he did to get the mention in despatches, nor the DFC. I've only just started looking and don't want to just bask in other people's hard work, but I'm fascinated, and still have a very strong connection to where he lived, and want to pass this to my son in time. Thank you .

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    Hi

    I just wondered if anyone could direct me to further information about this chap?

    thanks, again,

    Fiona

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    Fiona, from the following website:
    http://website.lineone.net/~remosliema/airman1915702.htm
    Pilot Officer P. RATHIE, Hurricane pilot, arrived first week of June 1941. A member of the Malta Night Fighter Unit when it was formed at Ta Kali in July 1941. The M.N.F.U. was re-named in December 1941 as 1435 Squadron.
    Regards, Terry

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    RATHIE, Peter, F/L (88467, RAFVR*, since deceased) - No.261 Squadron - Distinguished Flying Cross - awarded as per London Gazette dated 4 June 1946, with effect from 20 July 1943. Born 1920 in Ilford, Essex. Enlisted September 1939; commissioned November 1940. Mentioned in Despatches, January 1945. Citation from Air Ministry Bulletin.

    "Flight Lieutenant Rathie has served in the United Kingdom, Malta and India. In the latter theatre of war he has taken part in numerous operational sorties, many of the long flights over most difficult country. On one occasion in April 1943 (correct as in text) he led a formation of four aircraft against 24 [28 ?] Japanese aircraft. In the consequent engagement he destroyed one of the hostile bombers and probably destroyed a fighter, bringing his total victories to at least three enemy aircraft destroyed. The officer has never spared himself in his efforts, both as a pilot and as a flight commander. His high enthusiasm and unshakable confidence combined with his great courage have been an inspiring example to all."

    There is an entry regarding him in Chris Shores, "Those Other Eagle" which says he enlisted September 1939 and was commissioned in November 1940. Joined No.46 Squadron and followed it to Malta. Posted to Malta Night Fighter Unit (later No.1435 Flight). Left Malta April 1942 on posting to India where he joined No.155 Squadron. To No.261 Squadron, May 1943. Killed in action 21 July 1943 during a strafing sortie.

    Victories as follows:

    12 June 1941 - one CR.42 destroyed (shared), Malta (Hurricane)
    15 Fenruary 1942 - one Bf.109 damaged, Malta (Hurricane)
    10 November 1942 - one Type 0 destroyed (shared), Akyab (Mohawk)
    5 December 1942 - one Army 01 fighter destroyed, Chittigong (Mohawk)
    20 April 1943 - one Sally bomber destroyed, Imphal (Mohawk) and one Oscar fighter probably destroyed, both near Akyab.

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    Thank you all so much!

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