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    Default No.256 Sqn Fw190 Claim 18-7-1943

    Hello,

    Seeking information on an unconfirmed claim for a Fw190 by a No.256 Sqn Mosquito NF.XII, over the Channel, on 18-7-1943.

    It is variously mentioned in Sharp & Bowyer's, Mosquito, (Faber,1971) p.456, and by Martin Bowman in Mosquito Fighter/Fighter-Bomber Units of World War 2, (Osprey,1998) p.15. Neither mention a Pilot/Crew, or a serial.

    Has anyone accessed AIR27/1523. No 256 Squadron: Operations Record Book? If so, is there any mention of this event.

    Any info on claimant/victim etc, appreciated.

    Col.

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    Hi Col:

    The information I have for this one is as follows:

    "17/18 July 1943. Unconfirmed. Mosquito crew apparently witnessed the shooting down of a Defiant on a Mandrel patrol, and immediately shot the hostile aircraft down, however no Luftwaffe losses were reported for this night. Patrol time 23.05-01.40, time of claim 23.55, G.C.I. S. Isle of Wight. Mosquito NF.XII, Sgt. R.A. Smith."

    Sources as follows: "Main source is Sharp & Bowyer. Mosquito type from Osprey 9. Details and date from Fighter Command War Diaries, Volume 4. Time and G.C.I. information from http://bb.1asphost.com/lesbutler/tony/tonywood.htm . Pilot name is MH's assumption based on a combat report whcih is held for 256 Squadron on this date in AIR50/99."

    Cost ya 3.5 quid for the combat report here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7745582&queryType=1&resultcount =1

    HTH

    Mark

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    Hi Mark,

    That was snappy!

    Yes, it involved a No.515 Sqn Defiant II AA651 (not AD651, as reported by Alan Storr, nor a "Focke-Wolfe 150", for that matter - Storr. Vol.19. p.505 of 535)

    Crew:
    AUS400744 F/O (Pilot) George William WALTERS RAAF +
    747849 F/Sgt (Air Gnr.) George NEIL RAFVR +

    I know of no Luftwaffe losses under these circumstances, at this time.

    Thanks for your speedy reply (and the refs), now I can get on with it.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 6th September 2010 at 06:56.

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    No worries Col,

    So far as I know, the only Fw 190s which had even a remote possibility of being over the IOW in the dark were of I./SKG 10.

    I don't (yet) have access to Chris Goss' "Luftwaffe Hit and Run Raiders" book, which details the nocturnal ops of the 190s on the Western Front. However, so far as I know, their raids had already dropped off by that point in time.

    Always the chance of the dreaded friendly fire I suppose.

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    Edit - Tony Woods' listings of RAF Fighter Command Combats & Casualties are now at:

    http://don-caldwell.we.bs/claims/tonywood.htm

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    Mark.

    I have Chris Goss' "Luftwaffe Hit-and-Run Raiders". There are no recorded ops by I./SKG 10 on 17/18-7-1943.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 6th September 2010 at 07:18.

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    Cheers Col, thanks for that.

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