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    Hi,
    I am trying to research a aircrewman that flew with 171 Sqn in early 1945, all his operations are annotated as "Special duties" as opposed to targets in his log book. I understand it may have been something to do with radio counter measures? Also during an Op, would they just fly the general area of the bomber stream or did they do "spoof" missions? Any detailed information would be appreicated,
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    Rick

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    Hi Rick,

    I think you are right with the duty as the Sq was part of No 100 Group in the Radio Countermeasures role - see Malcom's great site: http://www.rafweb.org/Sqn171-175.htm.

    Pavel
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    The squadron, which had been formed on 7 Sep 44 from a flight of 199 Sqn, operated the Stirling and later the Halifax in the electronic countermeasures business with 100 Gp and flew from North Creake (my old man was on 199 at the time).

    Their role was to provide as much disruption to the enemy radios/radars as possible and to gather intelligence about the aids the enemy was using. They used all sorts of kit from WINDOW to quite sophisticated stuff.

    There are some good accounts about the work of 100 Gp and depending on how much depth you want to find out. I suggest a 'google' will get you going.

    OldRotor

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    Rick,
    A good starting point - for an overall (and scientifically accurate) view - is that old favourite "Most Secret War", Chap 47, by Prof R V Jones.
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    Hello,

    Two publications that are required reading for 100 Group in general, and No.171 Squadron in particular, are:

    Confound and Destroy:100 Group and the Bomber Support Campaign.
    Streetly,Martin.
    London:Macdonald & Jane's,1978

    and ...

    The Aircraft of 100 Group:A Historical Guide for the Modeller.
    Streely,Martin.
    London:Robert Hale,1984.

    Don't be put off by the subtitle of the second volume, it contains a lot of information on No.171 Squadron.

    Col.

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    Thanks guys, info much appreicated,
    Rick

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    Hi,

    I believe that 171 Sqdn during 1945 often provided aircraft for either the Mandrel jamming screen or the 'Window' spoof raids (when the latter were mounted).

    If you let me know the dates of the raids in question, I can probably narrow down the tasks for you...

    Cheers

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    Thanks Rod,

    I have this information - all were special duty raids, pilot was F/O Baker

    4th,7th,22nd,and 27th Feb 1945

    1st, 3rd, 8th, 10th, 13th, 14th, 16th, 18th, 23rd, and 27th march 1945

    April has 4 operations, dates unclear

    Any extra info would be appreicated,
    Cheers,
    Rick

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    Hi Rick,

    thanks for the dates. Here is some info to start with:

    4-5 February 1945
    Airborne Mandrel jamming - 11 a/c of 171 Sqdn & 7 a/c from 199 Sqdn were positioned between 51 42 N, 05 12 E and 51 03 N, 05 51 E, and between 50 41 N, 05 40 E and 49 51 N, 05 40 E. A/c were in position between 1945 - 2240 hours and jammers were employed between 1945 - 2130 and from 2215 - 2245 hrs.

    "Special Window Force" - 1 a/c of 171 Sqdn, 2 of 192, 3 from 223 and 10 from 462 Sqdn comprised a Window feint force. A/c flew from approx 51 24 N, 05 40 E at 2011 hrs towards approx 51 30 N, 06 40 E. At 2021 hrs, force turned onto track of 360 Deg True, followed by a turn onto track 180 deg True at 2031. At 2041, force set course back to 51 24 N, 05 40 E. The 171 Sqdn a/c in this force operated Mandrel jamming from 2005 - 2112 hrs.

    I will continue to describe the other ops a bit later today, when I have more time...

    Cheers

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    Just looked at the RAFRA site and it says to contact 199 Sqn Assn reference this sqn so the details for 199 are as follows:
    199 Squadron Register Phil Panichelli, 19 Dorin Court, Landscape Road, Warlingham, Surrey, CR6 9JT: tel 01883 622099
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