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    Hello,

    I just found this document in the archives, it is noted that an English airman dropped at sea off Saint. Lunaire was buried in the village cemetery.
    The name of AL HOPPER is unknown in the CWGC site ?

    http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/823597AD35502W59jpg.jpg
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    Can you translate all the information on the page? It might assist us figure this out.

    Its suggesting he was a F/Sgt RAF serial 349476, What is the date of the burial? 7th ??? 1941 Is it August?

    That serial number on an officer is one T A Corteen, who was still around in 1945 being promoted.
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 12th November 2010 at 08:27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis_burke View Post
    Can you translate all the information on the page? It might assist us figure this out.

    Its suggesting he was a F/Sgt RAF serial 349476, What is the date of the burial? 7th ??? 1941 Is it August?

    That serial number on an officer is one T A Corteen, who was still around in 1945 being promoted.
    OK, I say.
    AL HOPPER
    Grade: 7 TCC, grade unknown for me?
    Date of death: loss at sea
    Date of burial, August 7, 1941 in Saint Lunaire (Saint Malo)
    Cause of death: loss at sea

    Yes it is strange that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan35 View Post
    OK, I say.
    AL HOPPER
    Grade: 7 TCC, grade unknown for me?
    Date of death: loss at sea
    Date of burial, August 7, 1941 in Saint Lunaire (Saint Malo)
    Cause of death: loss at sea

    Yes it is strange that number.
    Error : Grade: 7 Stc
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    There is a Sgt A Hopper listed missing in the 22nd Oct 1942, very late on though for someone missing since before August 1941?

    Name is not on POW lists on this site so maybe he evaded or was an error.

    No clues in the GRO war deaths list of RAF
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    Could this be your man?

    From Flight, 14 Aug 1941:

    Sgt. J. St. C. Hopper - missing

    Could 7 STC be J. St. C?

    HOPPER, JACK ST CLAIR
    Initials: J S C
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Unit Text: 53 Sqdn.
    Age: 20
    Date of Death: 26/06/1941
    Service No: 749412
    Additional information: Son of Henry Frederick and Elizebeth Hopper, of Box, Gloucestershire. His brother, C. Sjt. Harry Frederick Hopper, died in England.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. C. 13.
    Cemetery: BAYEUX WAR CEMETERY

    The only fly in the ointment though, is that St. Lunaire and Bayeux are 178Kms apart but there is mention of him on this site that has him buried in Brittany.

    Memorial Inscription, HOLY TRINITY CHURCHYARD in Gloucestershire:
    http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/GLS/Minchinhampton/MIs.html

    CWG (Family Memorial)
    In memory of our dear sons,
    Sgt. 749412 Jack St Clair HOPPER, 53 Sqd, R.A.F,
    Wireless Operator/Air Gunner, killed on Coastal Patrol, 28 June 1941, 20
    Buried in Brittany
    C.Q.M.S, Henry Frederick HOPPER,
    L.I. Rifles [London Irish Rifles],
    Died 10 June 1942, 20

    What a bad time for the family, two sons killed within two weeks of each other.
    Last edited by dfuller52; 13th November 2010 at 10:19. Reason: addt'l info
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    From "Coastal Command Losses" Vol.1 page 132 (Ross McNeill):
    Blenheim IV - V6309 - PZ-E - 53 Sqn - lost 26-6-1941 on a Brest-Ushant Patrol. Shot down by a fighter and lost over sea. P/O (Pilot) Laurence J. FRANCIS - 87435 and Sgt (Obs) Robert A. WHITLEY - 903706 both on the Runnymede Memorial.
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    Hello,
    From Ross's Vol 1 . page 132.

    26th June 1941
    53 Sqdn
    Blenheim IV
    V6309
    "PZ-E"
    Base St. Eval
    T/o Time 0755 hrs.
    Crew
    P/O L.J. Francis +
    Sgt R.A. Whitley +
    Sgt J. St C. Hopper +
    S/d by St Fw Erwin Kley of 1/JG 2 at 0913 hrs.
    Sgt Hopper rests in Bayeux War Cemetery Calvados, France.

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    So obviously, the MRES acted on the form Dan has found in the files and had Hopper's body concentrated at Bayeux. Too bad the family memorial is now incorrect but in this case, it actually helped solve the case.
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    Fw Erwin Kley, who shot down this Blenheim, was later killed in the air battle over Dieppe on 19 Aug 1942. He flew a Bf109 in the Richtofen Squadron.
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