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    Hi there guys

    I have a picture of a Avro Lancaster, which I would gladly post but I'm not sure if this is possible.

    It carries no Squadron marking. The front Turret if fared over. It appears to have standard WW2 camouflage. The mid upper turret seems to contain something other than mgs, although the front of the turret is covered by the wing.

    There is a registration number forward of the crew rear door. It could be

    K8842
    K8942
    k8642
    X8842
    X8942
    X8642

    Can anyone help with an identification?

    Thanks in advance

    Roger
    Last edited by Wimpy; 11th December 2010 at 23:02.
    An American airman, was told at Briefing to ‘Go in at 30,000 feet and keep out of the flak.”
    “If I go in a 20,000 feet, what will happen?’ asked the airman.
    “You’ll probably be mentioned in despatches”, answered the officer.
    “If I go in at 10,000 feet ?“ he asked.
    “In that case you will probably get the Congress Medal”, he was told.
    "And if I go in at 5,000 feet?’ he inquired excitedly.
    “Don’t be a fool, man”, replied his superior, “you’ll go and bump into the R.A.F. at that height.”

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    From Robertson's RAF serial book:

    K8842 - Anson I
    K8942 - Whitley III
    k8642 - Queen Bee
    X8842 - Proctor IIA
    X8942 - Albacore
    X8642 - Fulmar

    Could it be KB....? Canadian built Lancs included KB700 to KB999 (with gaps). A few were partially or fully converted to transports. From my notes:

    KB842 - written off 6 March 1945 after collision during raid on Chemnitz, made it back to the UK
    KB942 - to the RCAF post war, struck off January 1947, no record of post war mods or ops

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    If you upload the picture to photobucket and paste the URL here in the thread, we can have a look at it.

    http://photobucket.com/
    David

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    I agree - more likely in the 'KB' serial range.

    If so, from Harry Holmes' Lancaster book:

    No KB642 (KB- Lancs start with KB700)
    KB842 - 434 Sqn. Crash-landed after collision 5-6 March 1945.
    KB942 - to 420 Sqn in April 1945.

    Hope this helps a bit?

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    It's definitely not an Anson.

    Do you have a forum album in photobucket. If so how do I access it? I have my own account on Photobucket.

    I think the KB idea looks a winner.

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    An American airman, was told at Briefing to ‘Go in at 30,000 feet and keep out of the flak.”
    “If I go in a 20,000 feet, what will happen?’ asked the airman.
    “You’ll probably be mentioned in despatches”, answered the officer.
    “If I go in at 10,000 feet ?“ he asked.
    “In that case you will probably get the Congress Medal”, he was told.
    "And if I go in at 5,000 feet?’ he inquired excitedly.
    “Don’t be a fool, man”, replied his superior, “you’ll go and bump into the R.A.F. at that height.”

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    You'll need to use your own album.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/DiggerDan/UPLOADS/?action=view&current=P1050634.jpg

    Hope it works
    An American airman, was told at Briefing to ‘Go in at 30,000 feet and keep out of the flak.”
    “If I go in a 20,000 feet, what will happen?’ asked the airman.
    “You’ll probably be mentioned in despatches”, answered the officer.
    “If I go in at 10,000 feet ?“ he asked.
    “In that case you will probably get the Congress Medal”, he was told.
    "And if I go in at 5,000 feet?’ he inquired excitedly.
    “Don’t be a fool, man”, replied his superior, “you’ll go and bump into the R.A.F. at that height.”

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    Looks like KB843, which survived to go back to Canada in June 45, the rear door appears to be sealed, so could be mothballed, or is it my imagination, whereas 842 was written off after it's crash-landing, but.........
    Last edited by AlanW; 12th December 2010 at 11:59.

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    I played with the image in photoshop a bit and it appears you are right Alan. I make it out as 843.
    David

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    From the original B&W photograph that I have I was convinced the last number was a 2, but I assume that KB842 would have a squadron code as I assume it would have been operational before March 1945 and was it the practice to far over the front turret on Lancasters, I know this happened to Wellingtons to gain a few extra MPH.

    The cockpit window appear open and what is the 5 gallon oil drum doing in the mid upper? Does the uniform of the airman suggest anything - light trousers?

    This photo must have been given to my mother as a memento, as she has written on the back

    "The Lancaster"
    George and Peters Kite
    2/8/43 17/6/43
    Hamburg Cologne

    George was her brother, Peter was her fiancée.
    An American airman, was told at Briefing to ‘Go in at 30,000 feet and keep out of the flak.”
    “If I go in a 20,000 feet, what will happen?’ asked the airman.
    “You’ll probably be mentioned in despatches”, answered the officer.
    “If I go in at 10,000 feet ?“ he asked.
    “In that case you will probably get the Congress Medal”, he was told.
    "And if I go in at 5,000 feet?’ he inquired excitedly.
    “Don’t be a fool, man”, replied his superior, “you’ll go and bump into the R.A.F. at that height.”

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