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    I've had two names suggested to me by a colleague who is extremely interested in this photo for its meteorological connection - the link is still India.

    We'd appreciate as much advice as possible on the careers of:

    1. Reginald Percy Batty
    2. Richard George Veryard (although I suspect it's unlikely to be him)

    Both names are mentioned in a history of the Idia Met Department and apparently both were Flt Lts in 1925 - but I'm happy to be corrected.

    TIA
    Brian
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    Ann,

    Thanks for the suggestions, unfortunately Gold, Brunt, Geddes and Read can be definitely discounted. All were 'hostilities only' and returned to civilian life in the Met Office on demobilisation. Not sure about the others, but feel they too would have returned to civilian life.

    Brian

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    Hi Brian,

    I can confirm that Batty should have been the 53rd name on my list (his Met course annotation had been placed in the wrong column). However he has no decorations declared.

    Batty, R P, Reginald Percy, F/L 02 October 1925, Met, BA

    Veryard is a similar entry
    Veryard, R G, Richard George, F/L 02 October 1925, Met, BSc

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    Hello gents, just going back to a earlier post of mine, but does it not look like the airman has a Military Cross ribbon on his chest? We can clearly see a DFC/AFC ribbon as the second medal ribbon on his chest. To the left of this we can see another medal ribbon. Now the wire connected to his helmet runs across the middle of the ribbon but it seems to me to be that of a Military Cross. White-purple-white (I have my grandfathers Military Cross sitting next to me as a reference!). Are there any other gallantry/higher awards with white-?-white colours?

    In the order of medal wearing i believe the MC would be worn before the DFC/AFC? If that is right it fits in with the ribbons on his chest. If it is indeed an MC/DFC/AFC combination it would cut down the number of contenders that could be the airman on the photo. I note on Ross's interwar AFL list thread that there is Lance Browning MC DFC.

    Just some thoughts.

    Cheers, Tom

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    In between his mention in 1925 and below, their appears to be no other LG listings of his promotions.

    To relinquish their commns. in class CC on appt. to emergency commns. in the Meteorological
    Br. R.A.F.V.R.: — Gp. Capt. R. P. BATTY, 1st Nov. 1942

    Air Ministry, 18th May, 1954. EMERGENCY LIST.
    The undermentioned relinquish their commissions under the provisions of the Navy, Army and Air
    Force Reserves Act, 1954, and have been granted permission to retain rank, as stated, with effect from 10th Feb. 1954.—
    Group Captain R. P. BATTY, retaining his rank

    and there is a mention of his OBE in the The Times Monday, Jan 02, 1950, where he is listed as Ass Director Metereological Office, Air Ministry
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    A previous thread on G/C Batty:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=13983&forum=DCForumI D6&archive=yes#1

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    Once again my thanks for your efforts gentlemen.

    A new version of the photo has been posted at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,287542.90.html in an attempt to improve the text on the folder. My colleague believes he can make out the words 'Empire Air routes' and 'Karachi', but his eyes are obviously better than mine.

    It has been suggested that the civilian's clothes are more 1930s than 1920s (some tailors have become involved).

    I'm still concerned at the F/L's ethnic origins.

    Brian

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    Hi Brian,

    Started to look at my second runner Lance Browning. Initially I had discounted him because I had no indication of service in Middle East.

    However..

    The Nov 1922 List records him as F/O Technical Duties (Met) from 13 Oct 1921 at RAF HQ Iraq.


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    His DFC was also awarded for services with 63 Squadron in Kurdistan, LG 9th July 1920.
    Can't find the LG mention for the MC.

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    I've found it. LG 11th October 1918:
    Awarded the Military Cross.
    Lt. Lancelot Harold Browning, R.F.A. and
    R.A.F.
    For conspicuous gallantry and daring
    whilst carrying out independent bombing behind
    the enemy's lines. He was attacked by a
    fast enemy scout machine, which by skilful
    piloting and accurate shooting he drove down
    to its aerodrome. No sooner had the enemy
    aeroplane landed than Lt. Browning dropped
    a. bomb, completely obliterating the pilot,
    who had started to run away, and damaging
    his machine. He then continued bombing,
    and while doing so was attacked by two more
    enemy scouts, both of which he drove off.
    He showed fine skill and courage throughout.


    I've found two contenders on ancestry.co.uk (although they are very similar):
    Lancelot H Browning born fourth quarter of 1897 and registered in Christchurch. No mothers maiden name given.
    Lancelot Harol Browning born second quarter of 1899 and registered in Christchurch. No mothers maiden name given.

    Might be of use.

    Cheers, Tom

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