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    Default Sgt WD Hilton - FTS / OTU casualty?

    I am trying to find information about the death of a relative,
    Sergeant (Pilot U/T) William Denys Hilton (754206) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve died 12/09/1940, Age 21.
    It is thought that he was killed in a crash in Northumberland, not sure whether he was injured in a crash before 12/09/41 & died of injuries or died in a crash on 12/09/41.
    Does “Pilot U/T” RAFVR indicate that he was @ a Flying Training School or an OTU?
    Has anyone access to Flying Training School &/or OTU records?
    Any assistance would be appreciated by ageing surviving relatives.

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    He is "Killed on Active Service" in the London Times RAF Roll of Honour, 8 October 1940.

    Therefore killed outright. If he had been injured previously he woud have been listed under "Died of Wounds or Injuries Received on Active Service".

    I cannot imagine under what circumstances a pilot "under training" would be assigned to an OTU. It is my understanding that one had to be trained up to "wings standard" before proceeding to OTU, "crewing up", and flying operational aircraft.

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    I strongly believe he was killed in Scotland on this date, and the two aircrfat I suspect he may have been a pilot of are either

    12.9.40 Master I N7879 8 FTS near Laurencekirk, Angus Spun in Ground
    12.9.40 Master I N7881 8 FTS 2 m W of Laurencekirk, Angus Dived In Ground

    The reason I suspect Scotland is that ScotlandsPeople record the death of a William Denys Hilton aged 21 in 1940 and these incidents are the only ones I can find in Scotland for this date - and a pilot UT would be at a FTS

    The closness of these 2 incidents suggests a collsion to me
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    These 2 Masters have came up before on the old board


    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=15655&forum=DCForumI D6&archive=yes


    with crew "Kenneth Robinson 758131 along with George Norman Lindsey 748117 "

    I wonder if there was another crash in Scotland this date or there were passengers on Master.. First clue is to find where Hilron actually died in Scotland

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    OK So I have looked at this further

    William Denys Hilton aged 21 in 1940 death was registered at Marykirk in Kincardine

    Kenneth Robinson aged 24 along with George Norman Lindsey aged 25 were both registered at Ezell Angus

    I wonder if we have solved the original mystery re: DaveW query

    Linzee has N7879 'spun into ground during aerobatics near Laurencekirk' - well we know that Laurencekirk is in Kincardine, so we Hilton was probably on this aircraft.
    What has probably happened is that becauase there were 2 separate accidents on the same day - the incidents have been confused in the documentation and prehaps N7881 was involved in the inident to Robinson and Lindsey - Unless someone can come up with another incident at Marykirk in Kincardine
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    Paul,

    I've ROBINSON (12-9-1940) and LINDSEY (DoW 4-10-1940) on N7879 "OR" N7881.
    In my list 'unaccounted airmen' (besides HILTON )for this date also:
    Sgt (Pilot u/t) Albert E. - HEPPELL - 754407
    AC1 Henry N. KINGDOM - 631666
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Harry E. TAYLOR - 947642.

    Have not yet checked Flight archives whether KOAS or DOAS.

    Henk.

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    Sort of match

    ALBERT EDMUND HEPPELL died in Scotland also in Kincardine but in the districk of Garvock

    A Harry JOHN Taylor aged 19 died in 1940 in Scotland but not in Kincardine or Angus
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    Hi
    There are deaths of a Henry N Kingdom,age 19,registered in Huntingdon in the 3rd Qtr 0f 1940, and a Harry E Taylor age 18 registered in Hull in the same Qtr.
    Regards
    Dick

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    Default Sgt WD Hilton - FTS / OTU casualty?

    Many thanks to all for the information, the mystery is solved & my relatives are most appreciative to you all.
    Does any one have the precise location of the crash site? If possible, we would like to visit the location.

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    William Hilton died when his a/c (probably N7881, '2m W of Laurencekirk') crashed at Mill of Thornton, Marykirk 45/688701. There appears to have been no other casualty in this a/c. This from the copy death certificate.

    Robinson & Lindsey possibly on Master N7819 CTO 11/12 Sept 1940 at Edzell

    regards


    DaveW
    Last edited by davew; 18th February 2008 at 22:10.

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