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DateAircraftUnitPilot NameLocation
16 Apr 41 Hart Trainer K3146 9 FTS UK
RemarksHenk Welting's Database

Casualties in the CWGC Register for Hart Trainer K3146

Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetery/Memorial & Loc Ref
Leading AircraftmanLouis RAPHAEL (931091) U/T Pilot Hart K3146  AIR81/5881 1941-04-169 SFTS United KingdomBristol Jewish Cemetery
Leading AircraftmanDouglas St. John SHIPWAY-FOWLER (1166467) U/T Pilot Hart K3146  AIR81/5881 1941-04-169 SFTS United KingdomStanton St. Quintin (St. Giles

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410416 - Unaccounted airmen - 16-4-1941What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for the following airmen killed on active service (while engaged on non-operational flying duties or on the ground through enemy action); it's known that many airmen were killed in an air raid on London and many died of wounds later as the Overseas Victoria League Club in Malet Street they were in, took two direct hits: Lac (Pilot u/t) Richardson K. DAVIDSON - 1060807; AC2 William A. JONES - 1356684; LAC (Pilot u/t) Louis RAPHAEL - 931091, and LAC (Pilot u/t) Douglas St.J. SHIPWAY-FOWLER - 1166467. Also: F/Lt Frederick C.G. EDEN - 74387 - killed on active service, and following airmen whose names couldn't be found in Flight Global archives: Sgt William R. GOVETT - 570309; AC1 Kenneth C.G. NICE - 929380; LAC (Pilot u/t) Thomas C. SHARKEY - 1286069; AC1 Anthony M. SILVERMAN - 651093; AC2 Arthur THORPE - 1044549, and LAC (Pilot u/t) Donald J. WHITE - 1262262. Proposed aircraft losses for this day: Hart Trainer - K3146 - 9 FTS - dived into ground Hankerton, 3 miles NE of Malmesbury, Wiltshire. Hurricane I - N2433 - 55 OTU - crashed on landing Ouston. Hurricane I - V7237 - 59 OTU - flew into ground Howbarry, Dumfries. Oxford I - R6087 - 14 FTS - crashed in forced landing at night Hemingford Abbots, Huntingdonshire. Oxford II - V3645 - 15 FTS - crashed on take-off Weston-on-the-Green. Spitfire I - X4475 - 57 OTU - abandoned near Ilkley, Yorkshire. Stirling I - N6002 - 10 MU - crashed Castle Combe. Tiger Moth II - N6480 - 11 EFTS - crashed on landing Perth. Tiger Moth II - N6654 - 4 EFTS - crashed; no further details. Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 1st September 2008 05:01:17
410416 - Unaccounted airmen - 16-4-1941Hi Henk Bet you didn't realise you were mixing with the British Nobility!! Frederick C G Eden is registered at Westminster after being killed in an Air raid, he was the 6th holder of the title Baron Auckland(the Auckland in this case is in County Durham). I suppose it is possible he was attending our Parliament.(The Houses of Parliament were among buildings damaged by bombing during the night of 16/17 Apr 1941) Now to business! Davidson,20 is registered at St Ives, Cambridgeshire(this area is right for Hemmingford Abbots.( ?Oxford R6087)), both Raphael and Shipway-Fowler are registered at Chippenham,Wiltshire it could connect them to Hart K3146, it is the right area.2 possible William A Jones, one ,44, in Lambeth S London just across the river from Westminster. and one ,36, in Manchester(CWGC don't have an age but theirs is buried at Hendon in N London). Thomas C Sharkey,28, and Donald J White,27 are registered at Howden, E Yorkshire a slight puzzle as this office supposedly closed in 1937 and it's function passed to Holderness and Howdenshire, but on a previous thread Tom found others also at Howden, it might be that on the list on Ancestry the "shire"was dropped for lack of space. Govett,20, is registered at Doncaster E Yorkshire, Thorpe is registered at Newton, probably the one in Devon. Silverman didn't come up so could be Scotland. Regards Dick ....Read More.Dick on 1st September 2008 06:13:37
410416 - Unaccounted airmen - 16-4-1941Hi Henk Shipway-Fowler (Pilot) and Raphael (Passenger) are listed in Wings over Wiltshire by Rod Priddle, as the crew of Hawker Hart K3146 which crashed near the village of Charlton 6 miles northeast of Hullavington. Regards, Nick ....Read More.nicks on 1st September 2008 07:53:05
Sgt Charles Edward Slee #364176 baleout "August 24 1935 " Colnbrook"Thanks to Charles Slee's grandson Guillaume I can now report a little more about this incident. It is this incident "AIR 10/1582 Report on Flying accidents during July-Dec 1935 Page20 ? In addition to the incidents noted above, in all of which the aircraft concerned were completely wrecked, there was one incident in which the aircraft was landed successfully by the pilot, who had lost control in bad weather, after his passenger who landed unhurt had jumped as ordered by the pilot." The pilot was Flt Lt. Reginald Vere Massey Odbert #17030 and Slee was on A Flight of the "A T Section" (Aircraft Test or Armament testing?) Section of A&AEE Martlesham Heath at the time. The incident is described by Slee thus "On August 24th I was returning to this Unit from Heath Row with Flight Lieutenant R. V. M ODBERT as pilot in a Hart aircraft. After leaving Heath Row we climbed in cloud to about 7,000 feet when the aircraft got out of control. As we were still in cloud and still out of control at a height of 1,500 feet the Pilot told me to jump. This I did and came out of the rain and cloud at about 300 feet and landed without injury in a field at Colnhrook, Bucks. " The only outstanding query is what Hart was involved. These were the known ones at Martlesham Heath in 1934 and 1935 From The Royal Air Force - Volume 2: An Encyclopedia of the Inter-War Years 1930-1939 by Ian Philpott 1934 Hawker Hart K2434 Dec 1934 Test-bed Napier Dagger I motor K2969 Jul 1934 Vickers-built aircraft for testing K2967 Jul 1934 Ballistic test aircraft Hawker Hart Trainer (Interim) K2475 Feb 1934 Dual-control for trials K3146 Jul 1934 Production aircraft for trials 1935 Hawker Hart I K2434 Feb 1935 Trials aircraft. Dagger II motor. K2466 Jan 1935 Dive-bombing trials Hawker Hart (Swedish) 1301 Jan 1935 Export aircraft with Pegasus radial motor Hawker Hart Trainer K3743 Jul 1935 Trials aircraft K3012 Apr 1935 Trials aircraft. To Canada K3153 Sep 1935 Trainer aircraft trials <-- Can be discounted to late My gut feeling is it may have been K2466 Jan 1935 Dive-bombing trials as Fairey were based at Heath Row at the time Firstly Can anyone confirm what "A Flight" at Marlesham Heath were responsible for I assume Bombers... As both Slee and Odbert were long term 'Bomber' men Thanks Paul ....Read More.paulmcmillan on 4th April 2017 09:12:55
Identity of crashed Hawker HartIn regard to the crashed Hart TT(?). The details as expressed in an earlier post about the exhaust pipe shape and windscreen. We're those items fitted randomly across all the Hart's or were they fitted in production line only to the Trainer aircraft ? Reason for asking is that aircraft in the TT series shown in photos with those fittings seem to be in the later serial number ranges. Ie, K3146 - K3158; K3743 - K3763; K4886 - K5052; K5784 - K5897; K6415 - K6550. Also it may shorten the search for the crashed a/case identity. Alex ....Read More.Alex Smart on 4th September 2021 05:57:08
410416 - Unaccounted Airmen - 16-04-1941Hello, 410416 - Unaccounted Airmen - 16-04-1941 From Henk's List - EGYPT McFALL, Leo Carty(N.Ireland) - AC2c - 650035 - RAF - 113 Sqdn. Alamein Memorial, Egypt. Killed during an Air Raid on Niamata,Greece. See AIR 81/6015. UK CONGREVE, Robert Lance - Lac - 437007 - RNZAF. EDEN, Frederick Colvin George - F/Lt - 74387 - RAF. GOLDING, John James - Lac - 6674 - RAAF. McVICAR, Kenneth James - Cpl - 4550 - RAAF. ROBINSON, Reginald Lee - Sgt - 402116 - RNZAF - 256 Sqdn. These five airmen rest at Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey. JONES, William Arthur - AC2c - 1356684 - RAFVR. Hendon Cemetery and Crematorium, Middlesex. The six airmen named above were all killed in an Air Raid on London. DAVIDSON, Richardson Kinnear - Lac - 1060807 - RAFVR. Cathcart Cemetery, Renfrewshire. Oxford - R6087 - 14 FTS. See - AIR 81/5879. COOK, Geoffrey Ernest - Sgt - 746999 - RAFVR. CROSS, Stanley (Australian) - F/Sgt - 506311 - RAF. (252 Sqdn ?). KERRIDGE, Cyril Walter - Sgt - 912844 - RAFVR. These three airmen are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. They were crew of Blenheim IV - V5881 - 13 OTU. See- AIR 81/5903. GOVETT, William Roy - Sgt - 570309 - RAF- 50 Sqdn. Heston (St.Leonard) Churchyard, Middlesex. Died in a Diabetic Coma at DoncasterRoyal Infirmary. NICE, Kenneth Sidney George - AC1c - 929380 - RAFVR. Colchester Cemetery, Essex. Killed in an Air Raid on RAF Kenley. RAPHAEL, Louis - Lac(Pilot U/T) - 931091 - RAFVR. Bristol Jewish Cemetery, Gloucestershire. SHIPWAY - FOWLER, Douglas St.John - Lac(Pilot U/T) - 1166467 - RAFVR. These two airmen were crew of Hart - K3146 - 9 SFTS. See AIR 81/5881. SHARKEY, Thomas Christopher - Lac(Pilot U/T) - 1286069 - RAFVR. Northwood Cemetery, Middlesex. Tiger Moth - R4943 - 4 EFTS. SILVERMAN, Anthony Myer - AC1c - 651093 - RAF. Belfast City Cemetery, County Antrim, UK. Killed in an Air Raid in Northern Ireland. See AIR 81/6457. THORPE, Arthur - AC2c - 1044549 - RAFVR. Salford (Agecroft) Cemetery, Lancashire. Died of Pneumonia. WHITE, Donald James - Lac(Pilot U/T) - 1262262 - RAFVR- 3EFTS(?). Banstead (All Saints) Churchyard, Surrey. Tiger Moth - N6654 - 4 EFTS. See - AIR 81/5882. From CWGC - AUSTRALIA DUGAN, James Ezekiel - AC1c - 23570 - RAAF. Townsville War Cemetery, Queensland, Australia. He died as the result of injuries received after a bottle of petrol exploded and ignited his clothing, causing severe burns on April 15th. He died early the next day of his injuries at Townsville Base Hospital. UK HUEMMER, Franz - GAF. STAUDE, Otto - GAF. VON SEIDLITZ, Guenter - GAF. These three German Airmen rest at Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery, Staffordshire. Cause of death ? Alex ....Read More.Alex Smart on 8th July 2023 12:56:55


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