Two other Singapore accidents

[Phil Listemann]

Hello,

On 02.02.37, Singapore III K3594 was lost during a night take-off, causing the death of at least one crewman. Does anyone know his name and his service number?
Also K4584 crashed on take off from Aboukir on 08.08.39 and 3 airmen were also killed. I'd appreciate to get their names and service number.

Many thanks in advance for any details provided.

Phil

[malcolm_raf]

Hi Paul

K3594 was Plt Off ROBERT DOUGLAS BLAIR

K4584 were
AC1 SCOTT, WILLIAM HALLIBURTON
Sgt STEED, LEONARD GLUNE
AC1 SHAW, ALFRED ALBERT

Malcolm

[Errol Martyn]

Note here correct spelling of Steed's name.

'For Your Tomorrow - A record of New Zealanders who have died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services since 1915 (Volume One: Fates 1915-1942)':

Tue 8 Aug 1939
Middle East
Flight to ?
203 Squadron, RAF (Basra, Iraq)
Short Singapore III K4584 - hit sea wall on take off and caught fire at Aboukir, Egypt. AC1 W H Scott and a New Zealander were killed, while AC1 A A Shaw died of injuries two days later at the Ras el Tin Military Hospital, Alexandria. The other occupants were Sqn Ldr J R Scarlett-Streatfield, Plt Off P R M Williams, Cpls P Ingrey and J R Smith, and AC1s W N Arrowsmith and W H Ard, RAF, all of whom were slightly injured.
2nd Pilot(?): Sgt Leonard Clunie STEED, RAF - Age 26(?)
Steed had just been accepted for transfer to the RNZAF in connection with the proposed delivery of Wellington bombers to New Zealand.

Since the above was published in 1998 I have learned that Steed was born on 17 Jun 1912, so 26 was his correct age at time of death.

Errol

[Mikkel Plannthin]

Perhaps of interest:

K4584
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=straitstimes19390827.2.170&sessionid=3dbd4225a45944129a34cbf3148b2d97&keyword=steed&search=advanced&fromdate=19390101&todate=19391231&articles=1&advertisements=1&illustrations=1&letters=1&obituaries=1&miscellaneous=1&newspaperTitles=beritaharian%2cdailyadvertiser%2ce asterndaily%2cmalayansatpost%2cmiddayherald%2csing chronicle%2csingdailynews%2csingweekherald%2cstrai tsadvocate%2cstraitschinherald%2cstraitseurasian%2 cstraitsmail%2cstraitsobserver%2cstraitstelegraph% 2cstoverland%2cstweekly%2cbiztimes%2cfreepress%2cs ingfreepressa%2csingfreepressb%2cstraitstimes%2cto day%2cweeklysun%2clhzb&fuzzysearch=Off&token=steed

K3594
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=straitstimes19370203.2.85&sessionid=02ba25e7eafd44f899ee16038eae2cf9&keyword=BLAIR&search=advanced&fromdate=19370201&todate=19370220&articles=1&advertisements=1&illustrations=1&letters=1&obituaries=1&miscellaneous=1&newspaperTitles=beritaharian%2cdailyadvertiser%2ce asterndaily%2cmalayansatpost%2cmiddayherald%2csing chronicle%2csingdailynews%2csingweekherald%2cstrai tsadvocate%2cstraitschinherald%2cstraitseurasian%2 cstraitsmail%2cstraitsobserver%2cstraitstelegraph% 2cstoverland%2cstweekly%2cbiztimes%2cfreepress%2cs ingfreepressa%2csingfreepressb%2cstraitstimes%2cto day%2cweeklysun%2clhzb&fuzzysearch=Off&token=blair

http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=singfreepressb19370204.2.65&sessionid=02ba25e7eafd44f899ee16038eae2cf9&keyword=BLAIR&search=advanced&fromdate=19370201&todate=19370220&articles=1&advertisements=1&illustrations=1&letters=1&obituaries=1&miscellaneous=1&newspaperTitles=beritaharian%2cdailyadvertiser%2ce asterndaily%2cmalayansatpost%2cmiddayherald%2csing chronicle%2csingdailynews%2csingweekherald%2cstrai tsadvocate%2cstraitschinherald%2cstraitseurasian%2 cstraitsmail%2cstraitsobserver%2cstraitstelegraph% 2cstoverland%2cstweekly%2cbiztimes%2cfreepress%2cs ingfreepressa%2csingfreepressb%2cstraitstimes%2cto day%2cweeklysun%2clhzb&fuzzysearch=Off&token=blair

http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article.aspx?articleid=singfreepressb19370203.2.12&sessionid=02ba25e7eafd44f899ee16038eae2cf9&keyword=BLAIR&search=advanced&fromdate=19370201&todate=19370220&articles=1&advertisements=1&illustrations=1&letters=1&obituaries=1&miscellaneous=1&newspaperTitles=beritaharian%2cdailyadvertiser%2ce asterndaily%2cmalayansatpost%2cmiddayherald%2csing chronicle%2csingdailynews%2csingweekherald%2cstrai tsadvocate%2cstraitschinherald%2cstraitseurasian%2 cstraitsmail%2cstraitsobserver%2cstraitstelegraph% 2cstoverland%2cstweekly%2cbiztimes%2cfreepress%2cs ingfreepressa%2csingfreepressb%2cstraitstimes%2cto day%2cweeklysun%2clhzb&fuzzysearch=Off&token=blair

The archive might hold further articles.

Mikkel

[Errol Martyn]

Mikkel,

Many thanks for that K4584 report. I'd not seen a photo of the wrecked aircraft before.

Errol

[Mikkel Plannthin]

You are welcome. Nice for me to be able to help you for a change :-)

Mikkel

[paulmcmillan]

On 2nd February 1937, Singapore III K3594 of 205 Squadron was lost during a night take-off at Seletar.

Crew was

Squadron Leader Albert Wentworth Bates - Slightly Injured (Pilot)
Pilot Officer Robert Douglas Blair - Killed (Second Pilot)
Leading Aircraftman William Trevor Davies - Slightly Injured
Aircraftsman (1st Class) Joe Lee - Slightly Injured
Aircraftsman (1st Class) Leonard Frank Wilkins - Slightly Injured
Aircraftsman (1st Class) Alexander Trevor Edward Daniells - Slightly Injured



On 8th August 1939, Singapore III K4584 of 203 Squadron hit a sea wall on take off and caught fire at Aboukir, Egypt#


Crew were


Squadron Leader James Rowland Scarlett-Streatfield - (Pilot) - Burnt Slightly Injured
Pilot Officer Peter Roland Mathews Williams - - Burnt Slightly Injured
Corporal Philip Ingrey - - Burnt Slightly Injured
Corporal John Riddell Smith - Burnt Slightly Injured
Aircraftsman (1st Class) William Nixon Arrowsmith - Burnt Slightly Injured
Aircraftsman (1st Class) William Hetherington Ard - Burnt Slightly Injured Ardall ?
Aircraftsman (1st Class) William Halliburton Scott - Burnt Badly Injured and died in hospital same day
Sergeant Pilot Leonard Clunie Steed - Burnt Badly Injured and died in hospital same day (Clune?)
Aircraftsman (1st Class) Albert Alfred Shaw - Burnt Badly Injured and died in hospital on 10th August 1939

Services numbers should be found on Air 78

[Phil Listemann]

Many thanks Gents for this first class material

Phil

[paulmcmillan]

Looked up a couple ofm Service Numbers

W. H. ARD either 560001 or 550001

later commssioned as (#53523)

Arrowsmith
566449