450119 - Unaccounted Airmen - 19-01-1945

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

450119 - Unaccounted Airmen - 19-01-1945

From Henk's List -

FRANCE
COUCHMAN, George Richard - Cpl - 1610974 - RAFVR - Cambrai (Route De Solesmes) Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.

ITALY
MORGAN, Wilfred - LAC - 1011329 -RAFVR - Naples War Cemetery, Italy.

UK
CAMERON, James Lindsay - Sgt - 984337 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
DEAN, William - Sgt - 1590636 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
GARLAND, Lawrence George - Cpl - 1223062 - RAFVR - Beckenham Crematorium & Cemetery, Kent.
GRAY, Ronald James - AC1c - 1195573 - RAFVR - Reading Cemetery, Berkshire.
OGDEN, Douglas Hartley - F/L - 89727 - RAFVR - Oban (Pennyfuir) Cemetery, Argyllshire.
PARR, George - LAC - 1005807 - RAFVR - Armthorpe (SS. Leonard & Mary) Churchyard, Yorkshire.
PINFOLD, Walter William - F/S - 950971 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
WARDLAW, Robert - LAC - 982077 - RAFVR - Bedlington (Netherton Lane) Cemetery, Northumberland.

From CWGC & Geoff's sites -

EGYPT
DOBSON, Thomas Trotter - Sgt(Pilot) - 1568802 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
EADIE, John - Sgt - 3020157 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
FORSTER, Edward - Sgt (Nav/Bomber) - 1616761 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
GRUNDY, John Desmond - Sgt - 1584748 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
HURCOMBE, Jack Ronald - Sgt - 1587975 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
JOHNSON, Hugh - Sgt - 1685607 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
MacDONALD, Donald John - Sgt - 1823589 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
OWEN, Richard Hayden - Sgt (A/G) - 1415771 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
SHIELDS, James Maxwell - Sgt (Wireless Operator(Air)) - 2220235 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
SYKES, Leonard Robson - Sgt - 1820179 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
WALTERS, David John - Sgt - 1452964 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.

INDIA
COHEN, John Laurence - AC1c - 1830908 - RAFVR - Madras War Cemetery, Chennai, India.

SINGAPORE
HODGE, William - LAC - 1665618 - RAFVR - Singapore Memorial, Singapore. [ not recorded in "Unsung Heroes"].

UK
LANGTON, George Robert Oliver - F/O (Pilot) - 160650 - RAFVR - Wakefield Cemetery, Yorkshire.
McKENNA, John Francis Xavier - Grp/Capt - A F C - RAF - Durrington Cemetery, Wiltshire. [ Mustang IV - KH648 - A&AEE ].
MOORES, Bernard - F/L (Pilot) - 88254 - RAFVR - Sheffield Crematorium, Yorkshire.
WILLIAMS, joseph Leonard - W/O (Pilot) - 1388308 - RAFVR - Rickmansworth (Chorleywood Road) Cemetery, Hertfordshire. [ Mosquito T.III - HJ992 - 1 FU ].

Alex

[malcolm_raf]

Hi

FRANCE
COUCHMAN, George Richard - Cpl - 138 Wing

ITALY
MORGAN, Wilfred - LAC - 113 MU.

EGYPT
DOBSON, Thomas Trotter - Sgt(Pilot) - probably killed whilst flying in Baltimore V, FW715 of No 75 OTU, which spun into the ground near Damanhur in Egypt.
EADIE, John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
FORSTER, Edward - Sgt (Nav/Bomber) -see Dobson.
GRUNDY, John Desmond - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
HURCOMBE, Jack Ronald - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
JOHNSON, Hugh - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
MacDONALD, Donald John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
OWEN, Richard Hayden - Sgt (A/G) - see Dobson.
SHIELDS, James Maxwell - Sgt (Wireless Operator(Air)) - see Dobson.
SYKES, Leonard Robson - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
WALTERS, David John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.

INDIA
COHEN, John Laurence - AC1 - 322 MU.

SINGAPORE
HODGE, William - LAC - 184 Wing

UK
CAMERON, James Lindsay - Sgt - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
DEAN, William - Sgt - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
GARLAND, Lawrence George - Cpl -registered in Lewisham.
GRAY, Ronald James - AC1 - registered in Uxbridge.
OGDEN, Douglas Hartley - F/L - died suddenly in Scotland.
PARR, George - LAC - registered in Uppingham.
PINFOLD, Walter William - F/S - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
WARDLAW, Robert - LAC - registered in Northumberland Central
LANGTON, George Robert Oliver - F/O (Pilot) - probably killed whilst flying in Oxford I, HN587 of No 21 (P) AFU, which crashed near Besston Rylands in Nottinghamshire after stalling in a turn.
McKENNA, John Francis Xavier - Grp/Capt - probably Mustang IV - KH648 - A&AEE ].
MOORES, Bernard - F/L (Pilot) -see Langton.
WILLIAMS, joseph Leonard - W/O (Pilot) - probably Mosquito T.III - HJ992 - 1 FU ].

Malcolm

[alclark]

The following came from the Hucknell & No.21 (P)AFU ORBs.

January 19th 1945, Clifton, “Oxford HN587 belonging to No.21 (P)AFU crashed in the vicinity of this station, both occupants (F/Lt Moores and F/O Langton) were killed.”

January 19th 1945, Medical Section, “Message received from Flying Control re crash near Burroughs Farm, Clifton nr Nottingham. Occupants were killed, Flying Officer Langton and Flight Lieutenant Moor of RAF Wheaton Aston.”

[jossleclercq]

Hello

The Wing sick quarters, Wing 138, states : Cpl Couchman R.A.F.S.P. [?] fatally injured by a lorry on the main Cambrai-Douai road on the evening of the 19th of January. This makes the sixth fatal road accident since the arrival of the wing at Epinoy.

Have always wondered about R.A.F.S.P. ?

Joss

[wwrsimon]

Service Police...?

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/scarce-ww2-raf-service-police-s-463503126

Regards

Simon

[Resmoroh]

RAF SP almost certainly refers to the 'Snowdrops' - or, at least, it did so in my time!! And they always had a Cpl's tapes up, even if they were only substantive LACs.
HTH
Peter Davies

[jossleclercq]

Hello

Thanks Simon and Peter.

Peter, not all of us are English... Can you explain what the "snowdrops" are ? I imagine they are the Service Police, but I'd like to be sure.

Can anybody confirm that M.P. is U.S. ? and S.P. British ? I have no knowledge at all in this field.

TIA

Joss

[malcolm_raf]

Joss

MP = Military Police in the British and US Army

Malcolm

[Resmoroh]

Joss, sorry!
"Snowdrops" (after the winter/spring flower - white on top, green underneath!!) was the derogatory phrase used to describe the RAF Service Police (SP) on account of the fact that they wore white covers to their No 1 Service Dress caps when on duty (the UK Army Military Police (MP) were "Redcaps" because they wore red covers to their SD caps). The phrase 'MP' for Military Police may be used by many countries. Can't remember what the Navy "Shore Patrols" (ashore) or their Regulating Officers (afloat) wore!!
HTH
Peter Davies

[jossleclercq]

Hello

Thanks for enlighting me about this. I thought they were called MP wherever... Even in France...

It never occured to me that the Police in the R.A.F. was called this way. Learning all the time, and that's the greatest advantage of this board.

Joss

[COL BRUGGY]

Hello,

EGYPT.

Eadie, Grundy, Hurcombe, Johnson, MacDonald, Sykes and Walters probably aboard No.1675 HCU (Abu Sueir), Liberator B.VI EV854 (42-64211), that failed to return from a navigation exercise on 19 January, 1945.

Col.

[jonheyworth]

Douglas Hartley Ogden 89727, attached to Number 302 FTU, was found dead in a railway carriage compartment at Callender having suffered a coronary thrombosis

[jonheyworth]

William Hodge 1665618 , attached to Number 184 Wing , was taken seriously ill on 9 July and was transferred from 39 Indian general hospital, Mindapore, to the 47 British general hospital on 20 July then to 9 British general hospital Poona. Embarked on A hospital ship for repatriation to the UK on 1 November, he died on board of bilateral tuberculosis and was buried at sea

[jonheyworth]

Wilfred Morgan 1011329 , attached to 113 MU , died at 14:00 Hours of self inflicted injuries

[jonheyworth]

John Laurence Cohen 1830908 , attached to 322 MU was admitted dangerously ill to Number 134 Indian General hospital on 9 January where he died of a cerebral tumour

[jonheyworth]

George Parr 1005897 , attached to 1653 HCU , was killed in a ground accident at RAF North Luffenham at 11:30 Hours when he was crushed by Lancaster HK797

[jonheyworth]

William Hodge 1665618 , additional information, he was in transit aboard the SS Amra and died off South Africa

[jonheyworth]

Ronald James Gray 1195573 | attached to Number 1 Signals Depot | was admitted dangerously ill to the Hillingdon hospital suffering from a rectal fissure on 31 October 1944. He died of Crohn’s disease