401128 - Unaccounted airmen - 28-11-1940

[Henk Welting]

What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for:

AC2 William P.H. AITKEN - 994628 - killed on active service;
P/O (Flying Instructor) Ronald V. GALT - 86698 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service, and
Sgt (Pupil Pilot) George WAITE - 971019 - killed on active service.

(What's the difference between a Pupil Pilot and a Pilot u/t ??)

Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

Anson I - N5144 - 12 FTS - crashed in forced landing Edlington, 4 miles SW of Doncaster.
Magister I - V1025 - Makers (Miles) - crashed before delivery and SOC.
Master I N7502 - 8 FTS - abandoned 4 miles NW of Stonehaven, Kincardineshire.
Oxford I - N6330 - 3 FTS - dived into ground at Bibury.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Andy Ingham]

Hello Henk
William P.H. AITKEN aged 24, death registered at West Cheshire.
Ronald V. GALT aged 23, death registered at Sleaford.
George WAITE aged 21, death registered at Cirencester so likley to have been on Oxford N6330.

Regards
Andy

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Andy. Perhaps one of the regular attendants of this board may confirm.
Regards,
Henk.

[Henk Welting]

Checking CWGC-registers with 'unaccounted list' found another airman sofar not listed in my files. What was the place of death registration for:

LAC John E. CRAIG - 867751 - age 32 - 12 BC, 938 (Balloon) Sqn (Portsmouth).

Regards,
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Craig,32, is registered at Durham S E,. 938 Balloon Sqn was based in fact at Stockton-on-Tees in County Durham in 1941,according to Sturtivant
I think the term Pupil pilot was either used when a trainee was flying with an Instructor, or was a qualified pilot training for a new a/c or task such as becoming an Instructor himself, but I expect someone has told you the answer since May!!
Regards
Dick

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dick. I had the site location from http://www.bbrclub.org/1940%20Status.htm.
Enjoy the Sunday !
Regards,
Henk.

[John Larder]

Henk

Craig killed in road accident when the sidecar he was in collided with therear of a stationary lorry.(Swaledale & Wharfedale Remembered - Taylor)

I have Waite 3 FTS Oxford N6330 Dived in

[Henk Welting]

Thanks John for additional info on CRAIG and confirmation WAITE killed on Oxford N6330.
Best regards,
Henk.

[wwrsimon]

Hello

AC2 William P.H. AITKEN - 994628 - the Grave Registration Report lists him as being with No. 3 School of Technical Training

P/O (Flying Instructor) Ronald V. GALT - 86698 - the Grave Registration Report lists him as being with 2 C.F.S. His death was registered at Sleaford, Lincs. A family tree on ancesty.co.uk has the following:

[His] aircraft was wrecked when it struck a tree just after take-off when the pilot corrected a swing to starboard too steeply at low altitude. The port wing struck a tree and the aircraft crashed. P/O R V Galt was seriously injured and died three days later.

Sgt (Pupil Pilot) George WAITE - 971019 - the Grave Registration Report confirms him being with 3 S.F.T.S.

Regards

Simon

[jonheyworth]

William PATTERSON Hannah Aitken , attached to Number 3 SOTT , was killed in an air raid at home on leave

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

401128 - Unaccounted Airmen - 28-11-1940

From Henk's List -

NEW ZEALAND
MAUNSELL, Robert James - Captain - NZMC - MB, ChB.
Auckland (Waikumete) Cemetery, Waikumete City, New Zealand.
Attached RNZAF Hobsonville.
Cause of death ?

UK
GAULT, Ronald Victor - P/O - 86698 - RAFVR - 2 CFS.
Seaford Cemetery, Sussex.
Cause of death ?
Aircraft accident 3 days previously.

AITKEN, William Patterson Hannah - AC2c - 994628 - RAFVR - 3 SoTT.
Wigan Cemetery, Lancashire.
Killed at home while on leave during an Air Raid.

CRAIG, John Edwin - Lac - 867751 - RAF (AAF) - 938 Balloon Sqdn.
Reeth and Grinton Cemetery, Yorkshire.
He was killed when the sidecar he was in collided with a lorry.

EVANS, Edward Joseph - Sgt - 629150 - RAF - DFM - 218 Sqdn.
Sheffield (Shiregreen) Cemetery, Yorkshire.
Death caused when he walked into a revolving propeller.

From CWGC -

ALBANIA
SYKES, Harold Ugo - F/O - 40269 - RAF.
The Churchyard of the Twelve Apostles, Drovian, Albania.
Gladiator II - N5812 - 80 Sqdn.

FRANCE
BAILLON, Paul Abbott - P/O - 86331 - RAFVR.
Bayeux War Cemetery, Calvados, France.
Spitfire Ia - R6631 - 609 Sqdn.

BARROW, Hector Jack Raymond - Sgt - 745659 - RAFVR.
Colleville-Sur-Mer Churchyard, Calvados, France.
Hurricane I - V6691 - 213 Sqdn.

UK
GEEN, Henry Ernest - Sgt - 744982 - RAFVR.
Epsom Cemetery, Surrey.
Blenheim IV - N6236 - 101 Sqdn.

LYALL, Archibald (Pat) - P/O - 81047 - RAFVR.
Brighton (Woodvale) Borough Crematorium, Sussex.
Spitfire Ia - N3242 - 602 Sqdn.

WAITE, George - Sgt - 971019 - RAFVR.
Loftus Cemetery, Yorkshire.
Oxford I - N6330 - 3 SFTS.

WATSON, Arthur Roy - P/O - 44187 - RAF.
Nottingham Southern Cemetery, Nottinghamshire.
Spitfire Ia - R6597 - 152 Sqdn.

WILLCOCKS, Peter Hamilton - Sgt - 742044 - RAFVR.
South of London Crematorium, Mitcham, Surrey.
Spitfire IIa - P7491 - 66 Sqdn.

The following twenty two airmen are all commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.

COLLIER, Ralph - Sgt - 745240 - RAFVR.
OSBORN, Edward Read (NewZealander) - P/O - 43644 - RAF.
LIVESEY, Walter - Sgt - 524173 - RAF.
ROWLEY, Dennis - Sgt - 972006 - RAFVR.
WEST, George Edward - Sgt - 620494 - RAF.
These five airmen were crew of Whitley V - P5077 - 102 Sqdn.

BIRCH, Colin Granville - F/O - 40984 - RAF - DFC.
BUTLER, Benjamin - Sgt - 627874 - RAF.
DICKSON, John Campbell - Sgt - 759323 - RAFVR.
GASKELL, Norman - Sgt - 646822 - RAF.
GRAHAM, Thomas - Sgt - 972571 - RAFVR.
JOHNSON, Douglas George - Sgt - 968136 - RAFVR.
VEVERS, Robert - P/O - 87653 - RAF.
WARD, Maurice (Australian) - Sgt - 641509 - RAF.
WILLIAMSON, Donald - Sgt - 968020 - RAFVR.
These nine airmen were crew of Wellington Ia - N2884 - 20 OTU.

CORNISH, John Charles - Sgt - 401223 - RNZAF.
GRAY, John Archibald - F/O - 39874 - RAF.
HOGGER, Hugh Alphonso - Sgt - 751500 - RAFVR.
HOHLER, Craven Goring - Wng/Cdr - 90000 - RAF (AAF).
JEFFERIES, Jack Herbert - Sgt - 908630 - RAFVR.
JOHNSON, Frederick Eric Valentine - Sgt - 903570 - RAFVR.
These six airmen were crew of Wellington Ic - T2894 - Ferry Flight.

PATTERSON, Leonard John - Sgt - 741219- RAFVR.
Hurricane I - P5189 - 501 Sqdn.

DUNDAS, John Charles - F/Lt - 90334 - RAF (AAF) - DFC & Bar.
Spitfire Ia - X4586 - 609 Sqdn.

Alex

[Andy Marden]

GAULT, Ronald Victor - P/O - 86698 - RAFVR - 2 CFS.
Seaford Cemetery, Sussex.
Cause of death ?
Aircraft accident 3 days previously.


GALT (note spelling) was on board Oxford R5954: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16688426
I have amended our database to link to the CWGC entry: http://www.rafcommands.com/database/serials/details.php?uniq=R5954

[vrajm]

Hi Alex,

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/imageserver/newspapers/P29pZD1PRFQxOTQwMTEyOSZnZXRwZGY9dHJ1ZQ==

page 10 :

DR ROBERT MAUNSELL

(Per United Press "Associations)

AUCKLAND, Nov. 28.

After spending some time in general
practice in Wellington, then as a doctor
on overseas ships, and lastly as medical
officer at the Hobsonville air base dur-
ing the past six months. Dr Robert
Maunsell, single, aged 45, died today
as the result of an illness at the Auck-
land Hospital. …

Regards

Mojmir

[Alex Smart]

Hello Andy, yes I had GALT written down but somehow it changed to Gault on the day of posting my 401128 post.
Thanks for the correction and aircraft details.
Alex

[Alex Smart]

Hello Mojmir,
Many thanks for the details of Dr. Maunsell's service.
Alex