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9th August 2017, 15:55

Hope someone maybe able to help?.
I am currently researching the airfield at Langley and are looking for known locations of any of the log books of Hawker test pilots relating to Langley.
I know that Brooklands have some but I wondered if anyone can give me clues to the whereabouts of the following or have indeed perhaps copied information from any examples which they maybe willing to share with me, any copying costs would be covered or even better if they could be emailed/digitised.

I would like to enquire as to where any of the following are located or maybe owned by museums or families etc

Roland Beamont - (I have a copy of the Earnshaw & Crane book regarding his WWII logbooks but that does not list all of his langley flights)
Richard Muspratt
E S "Doc" Morrell
George Bulman
Bill Humble (think these maybe at Hendon?)
Neville Duke
Hubert Broad
Frank Fox
Merrick Hymans
John "Chips" Carpenter
Frank Harry Silk
Hugh Kendall
T D Lacey
Thomas Bernard Fitzgerald
Roy Clement Ford
Kenneth Gordon Seth-Smith
J A Crosby-Warren
D M Bay
G P V Morgan-Thomas
Bill Bedford

Any help greatly appreciated

16th August 2017, 14:29

I have a few copies from your list. Please PM me.

Kind regards
John Engelsted.

24th August 2017, 09:47
I also have these pilots as being test pilots at Hawker:

William Geoffrey Eagle
Stuart Goldspink
Pete Kynsey
Phillip Gadesden Lucas
Francis Murphy
Peter Edward Raw
Richard Carew Reynell
Andy Sephton
Harvey Nelson Sweetman
Arthur Ernest Umbers

John E.

18th September 2017, 18:47
I have just come across your post asking for information about Langley and the Hawker test pilots - and I can be of help. I have been researching the life of my father, Frank Murphy, who was with RNZAF 486 Squadron during the war. My father was the first in his squadron to be awarded a DFC and was co-opted to be a test pilot with Hawkers in December 1944 at the end of his tour of duty. He then remained with Hawkers as a test pilot after the end of the war. He was made Chief Production Test Pilot alongside Neville Duke as Chief Test Pilot - and they both moved with Hawkers to Dunsfold Aerodrome in 1951/1952 when test flying was moved there. I grew up there until we moved to Guildford in 1956 after my father stopped test flying - and moved into management.

Other members of 486 Squadron who tested planes during the war included Harvey Sweetman, Jim McCaw and Arthur 'Spike' Umbers. They were all very close friends.

I eventually managed to trace my father's post-1944 log book to New Zealand and I have a complete copy which may be of use to you. I also have countless newspaper clippings, photographs, and other memorabilia which you are welcome to consult. I have digital copies of a large proportion of these.

Bill Humble's log book is with the RAF Museum and I may be able to help you trace some of the others so do get in touch.

I'm not sure how to edit my profile in order to allow people to contact me (without broadcasting to the world) so I will also try and contact you directly.

17th October 2017, 14:07

Not sure if you received it but I have sent you an email