410506 - Unaccounted airmen - 6-5-1941

[Henk Welting]

What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for:

Sgt (Pilot) Thomas M. ADLARD - 1166520;
LAC Francis J. BIBBY - 615420;
AC1 Peter BREMBER - 1006825 - 18 BC, 946 (Balloon) Sqn (Renfrew);
LAC Trevor S. DAVIES - 967531;
AC2 Godfrey C. GABRIEL - 1027545 - 85 Sqn (Hunsdon, Hertfordshire);
AC2 Frank HUNNINGTON - 1295907;
AC1 William IRVINE - 1106983 - 18 BC, 946 (Balloon) Sqn (Renfrew);
Sgt Ernest J.M. LUCEY - 536607;
LAC (Pilot u/t)Norman B. MOODY - 921747;
Cpl Stanley POOLE - 533660 (his father George Sutton POOLE killed in same incident);
LAC (Pilot u/t) Martin WILLIAMS - 1113079, and
Cpl Walter S. WILSON - 871702 - 15 BC, 938 (Balloon) sqn (Billingham).

Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

Lysander II - P1699 - 6 AACU - damaged byond repair; no further details.
Oxford I - L9638 - 3 FTS - spun into ground Coulsdon Golf Course, Surrey.
Tiger Moth II - N6770 - 17 EFTS - damaged and SOC 12-6-1941.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[alclark]

Sgt Adlard was, according to the No.3 School of General Reconnaissance ORD, killed in Botha L6265

May 6th 1941, “Botha L6265 crashed in sea off Puffin Island, N. Wales involving the death ofone airman, Sgt Adlard T.M.”

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Al; good news for the weekend; will amend my files.
Regards,
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Bibby,20, is registered at Liverpool S,Davies,31, is registered at Liverpool N, Gabriel,26, is registered at Ware ,Hertfordshire, Hunnington,33, is registered at New Forest, Hampshire,
Moody and Williams both aged 20,are registered at Surrey Mid East which covers Coulsdon(Oxford L9638?), Wilson,34, is registered at Nothumberland S.
Brember didn't come up and I note on CWGC that he is buried in Paisley, Renfrewshire. Irvine is buried in Glasgow and CWGC puts him on 946 Balloon Sqn which was based there.I couldn't find Lucey although he is buried in England.
Regards
Dick

[Andy Ingham]

Hello Henk
The death of both Irvine & Brember were registered at Renfrew, Scotland.
Both died as a result of injuries recieved due to an air raid.
Regards
Andy

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Andy for this additional info.
Regards,
Henk.

[dennis_burke]

Sgt (Pilot) Thomas M. ADLARD - 1166520; ---> KOAS
LAC Francis J. BIBBY - 615420; Liverpool S; ---> KOAS
AC1 Peter BREMBER - 1006825 - ---> Not found in Flight magazine ?
LAC Trevor S. DAVIES - 967531; ---> DOAS Jun 26th
AC2 Godfrey C. GABRIEL - 1027545 - ---> DOAS Jun 19th magazine
AC2 Frank HUNNINGTON - 1295907; ---> Not found in Flight magazine ?
AC1 William IRVINE - 1106983 - ---> KOAS Oct 30th magazine, quite late.
Sgt Ernest J.M. LUCEY - 536607; ---> DIED OP WOUNDS OE INJURIES RECEIVED ON ACTIVE SERVICE Jun 19th magazine
LAC (Pilot u/t)Norman B. MOODY - 921747; ---> KOAS Jun 19th magazine
Cpl Stanley POOLE - 533660 ---> DIED OF WOUNDS OR INJURIES RECEIVED ON ACTIVE SERVICE Jun 26th magazine
LAC (Pilot u/t) Martin WILLIAMS - 1113079, ---> KOAS Jun 19th magazine
Cpl Walter S. WILSON - 871702 - ---> KOAS Aug 7th magazine

Henk, no need to acknowledge this posting, unless you have further questions

[Henk Welting]

POOLE's father was killed in the same incident believed to be an air-raid.

[dennis_burke]

George Sutton Poole died on 3rd May, along with his daughter, Muriel Poole, May 3rd, presumably Stanley Poole's siter.

1 Woodhouse St, Liverpool.

[Theletterwriter]

Hello Henk
The death of both Irvine & Brember were registered at Renfrew, Scotland.
Both died as a result of injuries recieved due to an air raid.
Regards
Andy

Andy / Henk

Both men would appear to have been killed at Clarence House, High Street Renfrew in the same incident. As Andy rightly confirmed, both recorded at Renfrew in the County of Renfrew.

Douglas

[Jim C]

Henk,

AC2 Godfrey C. GABRIEL - 1027545 - 85 Sqn - died in an airscrew accident.

Jim.

[Henk Welting]

Thanks all for much appreciated additional info.
Regards,
Henk.

[wwrsimon]

Hello

Sgt Ernest J.M. LUCEY - 536607 - the Graves Registration Report Form lists his unit as "H.M.S. Furious."

LAC (Pilot u/t) Norman B. MOODY - 921747 and
LAC (Pilot u/t) Martin WILLIAMS - 1113079 - their respective Graves Registration Report Forms list their unit as 3 F.T.S., which links them to Oxford L9638

Regards

Simon

[Jagan]

Sergeant William Henry COX (755691) 1941-05-06 37 Sqdn Iraq Basra War Cemetery

Died as a result of the burns he received on the night of May 5th. Funeral took place in SHAIBAH .
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8411189

[NIWarMemorial]

Hello

Sgt Ernest J.M. LUCEY - 536607 - the Graves Registration Report Form lists his unit as "H.M.S. Furious."

LAC (Pilot u/t) Norman B. MOODY - 921747 and
LAC (Pilot u/t) Martin WILLIAMS - 1113079 - their respective Graves Registration Report Forms list their unit as 3 F.T.S., which links them to Oxford L9638

Regards

Simon

Hi,

I work for the NI War Memorial, Belfast and have been trying to find more info about Sgt Ernest J.M. LUCEY - 536607

His death, caused by HE bomb, is registered in Belfast at Stranmillis Hospital however I am not aware of where exactly he was injured. HMS Furious was in Belfast 4/5th May during the raid before sailing to Liverpool the next day where it again experienced another raid.

This is the first I've seen Lucey's name linked to the ship. Is there a way I can access the grave registration report form? Or if anyone can signpost me to further info it would be most appreciated.

[wwrsimon]

Hello Alan

Welcome to the Forum. The Graves Registration Report Forms are normally (or used to be) available on the individual casualty's page on the CWGC website.

Lucey's seems to be missing from his entry now, for some reason, maybe a victim of the website's updates:

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2692048/ERNEST%20JOHN%20MONTAGUE%20LUCEY/

Regards

Simon

[jonheyworth]

Try the GRO death index it may have HMS Furious listed as his unit on there. It’s 34 weeks since I added his cause of loss and I think my note book with him listed is miles away and Covid restricted !

[NIWarMemorial]

Thanks for the welcome Simon, longtime lurker but needed to sign up this time to ask my question.

That's what I assumed when you said Graves Registration Report Form but no idea why his entry doesn't have one. I'll drop CWGC a message and ask. I am in touch with the church warden where he is buried so hopefully she can fill in a blank.

[NIWarMemorial]

I ahve his death registered here in NI that states him as 'fitter corporal RAF' that died at 'Stranmillis Hospital'.

There are no other details relating to his unit or place of injury sadly

[jonheyworth]

Trevor Sylvester Davies 967531 , attached to Number 5 MT Company, died at 23:50 Hours in Walton hospital, Liverpool of pneumonia with his next of kin at his bedside

[jonheyworth]

Frank Hunnington 1295907 , attached to RAF Dunsfold, died of self inflicted injuries at RAF Duxford

[malcolm_raf]

Frank Hunnington 1295907 , attached to RAF Dunsfold, died of self inflicted injuries at RAF Duxford

Hi Jon

Are you sure it was Duxford?

His death is registered in the New Forest which is nowhere near Duxford?

Malcolm