410910 - Unaccounted airmen - 10-9-1941

[Henk Welting]

What were the places of death registration for:

LAC (Pilot) (u/t ?) Lionel C. BROWN - 1373717 (from S.Africa);
LAC (Pilot u/t) Alan DUTHIE - 1089016;
Cpl Norman S. ELLIS - 973014;
AC2 Patrick A. PACITTO - 1433158, and
LAC (Pilot u/t) John V.W. SHAND-KYDO - 1384380.

Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

Beaufort I - L9806 - 2 FPP - crashed in forced landing West Ham, Wedmore, Somerset.
Dragonfly - X9390 - 7 FPP - crashed on take-off Cosford Waterworks, Shropshire.
Hurricane I - L1822 - 9 FTS - abandoned Dursley, Gloucestershire.
Master I - T8639 - 9 FTS - dived into ground Vasey Field, Horton, near Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire.
Oxford II - P1087 - 18 PFTS - crashed on landing, Newton.
Oxford II - R6393 - 14 FTS - overshot landing at Wanborough LG.
Percival Q6 - X9454 - crashed in forced landing near Castletown, Caithness.
Spitfire I - P9462 - 53 OTU - crashed in forced landing ½ mile N of Stogursey, Somerset.
Spitfire I - R6639 - 53 OTU - crashed in forced landing Lulworth, Dorset.
Tiger Moth II - R5077 - MSFU - spun into ground Haddon Lane, Burton Wirrall, Cheshire.
Tiger Moth II - T7339 - 11 EFTS - collided with Tiger Moth BB680 Couper Angus, Perthshire.
Tiger Moth II - BB680 - 11 EFTS - collided with Tiger Moth T7339 Couper Angus, Perthshire.
Oxford II - AS872 - 51 OTU - overshot landing at night Cranfield.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Ellis, 35, registered at Pembroke,S Wales
Pacitto,19,registered at Wenlock,Shropshire. In the past this has often meant Cosford Hospital but clearly would also be right for Dragonfly,X9390 at the waterworks,
Shand-Kydd, 18, registered at Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.This area would be right for Ivinghoe as well as Halton Hospital.
Neither Brown or Duthie came up but I see you have at least 3 incidents in Scotland,
Regards
Dick

[dennis_burke]

Both LAC Lionel C. BROWN & LAC Alan DUTHIE- KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE (WHILE ENGAGED
ON NON-OPEBATIONAL FLYING DUTIES OK ON THE GROUND THROUGN ENEMY ACTION).—

Cpl Norman S. ELLIS - DOAS;

AC2 Patrick A. PACITTO - DOAS but listed in Flight as A. PACITTO only, I imagine a typo as CWGC has only one PACITTO for WW2.

LAC (Pilot u/t) John V.W. SHAND-KYDO - KOAS but spelled Shand-Kydd.

There is a 20 year old Alan Duthie and 25yr old Lionel Cedric brown in Scotland but I can't say where.

[thorne83]

Hi Henk,

Dragonfly X9390 was actually a non fatal accident, although both crew were injured. Pacitto would almost certainly have died in RAF Cosford hospital (which ties in with 'DOAS'), although his name is a new one to my list, so can't be certain!

Also, i am not with my fiels at the moment, but i am sure the aircraft was on strength of 9 MU not 7FPP; it was on a test flight at the time.

Cheers, Tom

[davew]

Henk

Brown's place of death given as Butterybank, Coupar Angus, Perthshire and Duthie's at Haugh Field, Hills of Bendachy, Coupar Angus. These places are less than two miles apart. There is no indication of which TM each was in.

regards

DaveW

[Henk Welting]

Thanks friends for all this worthwhile info.
Enjoy the weekend and best regards,
Henk.

[Deric Brock]

Hello All,

Cpl. Norman Stanley Ellis was killed in a road accident in village of Sageston, Pembrokeshire. He was stationed at RAF Carew Cheriton.

Regards
Deric Brock.

[dennis_burke]

Good man Deric, keep these updates coming, these are threads that you might not get a reply on but assume you've been thanked.

[COL BRUGGY]

Hello,

One elimination:

The pilot that baled out of No.9 FTS Hurricane I L1822 was, 1252826 LAC Dennis Erle PIKE RAFVR. The later, P/O D E Pike (106187), was shot down on 12 February, 1942, during Operation "Fuller". He was flying No.234 Sqn Spitfire Vb AA727, and was posted missing (FCL2/13).

Col.

[jonheyworth]

UPGRADE to Harry Louis Axler R 79458, he died of post operative complications following an appendectomy

[jonheyworth]

Patrick Arthur Pacitto 1433158 , attached to RAF Perham, shot himself with suicidal intent on 9 October at the station , dying of his wounds in RAF hospital, Cosford