400519 - Unaccounted airman - 19-5-1940

[Henk Welting]

Best wishes for the new year !
What caused the death of AC1 Alfred P. COOPER - 648356, whose name I can't find in The Times and Flight Global archives, buried Clippesby (St.Peter) Churchyard, Fleggburgh, Norfolk (UK2542).
Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Henk Welting]

Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
Blenheim I - L1154 - 5 BGS - crashed on take-off Jurby/IoM.
Blenheim I - L1471 - 5 OTU - crashed in forced landing Woolaston, Gloucestershire.
Master I - N7454 - 5 FTS - crashed in forced landing Stratford-on-Avon, Warwickshire.
Reliant - X8521 - 1 STT - crashed in forced landing Start Point, Sanday, Orkneys.
Regards,
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Happy New Year. I'm afraid that both your Blenheims are in Warner's "Blenheim" but on 19/06/40 and there were no recorded deaths
Regards
Dick

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dick. Your info is correct. Mistake from my side. The said airman indeed was killed (or died) 19-6-1940.
Regards,
Henk.

[Martyn A Critchlow]

Alfred P Cooper - Death regd Thirsk, Yorkshire

Saturday 13 July 1940, Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, West Yorkshire, England
Thirsk Road Smash
The victims were Alfred Percy Cooper (20), air mechanic, of Cllpperby, Yarmouth, and George Harold Doult (22), private In the Green Howards.

Martyn

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

400519 - Unaccounted Airmen - 19-05-1940

From Henk's list -

NETHERLANDS
HILDEBRAND, Gert Everardus - Naval Airman - 6511- KM.
Oorlogs Graven Stichting, Netherlands.

UK
ARMSTRONG, Leslie - Sgt - 561022 - RAF - 4 Sqn.
Runnymede Memorial, Surrey, UK.

NEWCOMBE, Leslie Timothy - AC2c - 702680 - RAFVR - 149 Sqn.
Ilkeston ( Park) Cemetery Derbyshire, UK.

From CWGC -

AUSTRALIA
MACRAE Stanley Calvert - Cameron- RAAF - 1 SFTS.
Victoria Cremation Memorial, Victoria, Australia.
Demon - A1 - 13 - 1 SFTS.

BELGIUM
COLEMAN, John Herbert (New Zealand ) - P/O(Pilot) - 43692 - RAF - PRU.
Templeuve Communal Cemetery, Hainaut, Belgium.
Spitfire 1a - P9308 - PRU.

FRANCE
OLDACRES, Leonard John - F/O(Pilot) - 70511 - RAFVR - 4 Sqn.
BUTTERILL, Clarence ( Canadian) - Lac(A/g) - 900943 - RAFVR - 4 Sqn.
These two airmen were crew of Lysander I - N1305 - 4 Sqn.

PLUMB, John Alfred - P/O(Pilot) - 33547 - RAF - 4 Sqn,
THORNTON, Ronald James - Lac(A/g) - 935525 - RAFVR - 4 Sqn.
These two airmen were crew of Lysander N1306 - 4 Sqn ( Henk's Y0078).

The four airmen named above all rest at St. Andre Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.

BELCHER, Edward Joseph - Sgt(Obs) - 580477 - RAF - 12 Sqn.
Choloy War Cemetery, Meurthe-et-Moselle, France.
Battle I - N2178 - 12 Sqn.

McELLIGOTT, James Joseph (Jimmy) (Republic of Ireland) - P/O(Pilot) - 40630 - RAF - 12 Sqn.
Battle I - L5538 - 12 Sqn.
JONES Tom - Sgt(Obs) - 561183 - RAF - 142 Sqn.
Battle I - P5238 - 142 Sqn.
These two airmen rest at Terlincthun British Cemetery, Wimille, Pas-de-Calais, France.

BOYLE, William Donald - Lac(Wop) - 618097 - RAF - 142 Sqn.
Dagny-Lambercy Churchyard, Aisne, France.
Battle I - L5226 - 142 Sqn.

LUCAS, Kenneth Richard - P/O(Pilot) - 41854 - RAF - 145 Sqn.
Warloy-Baillon Communal Cemetery Extension Somme, France.
Hurricane I - N2598 - 145 Sqn.

HARRIS, Robert Edward - P/O(Pilot) - 33449 - RAF - 17 Sqn.
Noyelles-Sur-Selle Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.
Hurricane I - N2408 - 17 Sqn.

BETTANY, Frederick Lawrence - Lac(A/g) - 935893 - RAFVR - 26 Sqn.
Landrecies Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.
CLIFFORD, Ralph Henry - P/O(Pilot) - 33537 - RAF - 26.
Neuvilly Communal Cemetery Extension, Nord, France.
These two airmen were crew of Lysander II - N1202 - 26 Sqn.

CHURCH, Arthur Frederick - Lac(A/g) - 936538 - RAFVR - 26 Sqn.
HALLIDAY, Christopher Ian Dunbar - P/O(Pilot) - 33424 - RAF - 26 Sqn.
These two airmen rest at Authie Churchyard, Somme, France.
They were crew of Lysander II - N1290 - 26 Sqn.

BURY, David Stuart Harold - F/O(Pilot) - 72077 - RAF - 111 Sqn.
Chili Trench Cemetery Gavrelle, Pas-de-Calais, France.
Hurricane I - L1774 - 111 Sqn.

MOORWOOD Ian Colin - P/O(Pilot) - 42253 - RAF - 111 Sqn.
Sains-Les-Marquion Churchyard Pas-de-Calais, France.
Hurricane I - L1720 - 111 Sqn.

ANDERSON, Harry Thomas James - F/Lt(Pilot) - 39021 - RAF - 253 Sqn.
Lille Southern Cemetery, Nord, France.
Hurricane I - N2542 - 253 Sqn.

MCKENZIE, Gilbert - Sgt (Pilot) - 518372 - RAF - 253 Sqn.
Cysoing Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.
Hurricane I - L1565 - 253 Sqn.

RATFORD, Frederick William - P/O(Pilot) - 41951 - RAF - 253 Sqn.
Riencourt-Les-Cagnicourt Communal Cemetery, Pas-de-Calais, France.
Hurricane I - L1674 - 253 Sqn.

UK
FIDLER, George Marley - Sqn/Ldr(Pilot) - 34219 - RAF - 607 Sqn.
Hurricane I - P3535 - 607 Sqn.

LITTLE, John McGregor - Sgt - 741292 - - 85 Sqn
Hurricane I - P2562 - 85 Sqn.

DROMGOOLE, Ian( New Zealand) - P/O(Pilot) - 42461 - - 16 Sqn.
REED, Andrew Patrick - F/O - 25132 - - 16 Sqn.
These two airmen were crew of Lysander - ????? - 16 Sqn( Henk's Y0103 ).

JONES, William - Sgt - 563455 - RAF - 206 Sqn.
JUDGE, Ernest Albert - Sgt - 565431 - RAF - 206 Sqn.
METCALFE, Anthony John - Cpl - 516026 - RAF - 206 Sqn.
MEWETT, Henry Charles - AC1c - RAF - 206 Sqn.
These four airmen were crew of Hudson I - N7363 - 206 Sqn.

These eight airmen are all commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey, UK.

Alex

[wwrsimon]

Alex

NEWCOMBE, Leslie Timothy - AC2c - 702680 - the 149 Sqn ORB Form 540 record that he was killed instantly at 22.00 after he accidentally walked into the port airscrew of an aircraft of "A" Flight that was running up at the Dispersal Point.

Regards

Simon

[Andy Marden]

RATFORD, Frederick William - P/O(Pilot) - 41951 - RAF - 253 Sqn.
Riencourt-Les-Cagnicourt Communal Cemetery, Pas-de-Calais, France.
Hurricane I - P3535 - 253 Sqn.


Alex,
Ratford was flying L1674 according to TNA: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16471517
P2535 is listed in the next entry down (Fidler)
Andy

[Andy Marden]

PLUMB, John Alfred - P/O(Pilot) - 33547 - RAF - 4 Sqn,
THORNTON, Ronald James - Lac(A/g) - 935525 - RAFVR - 4 Sqn.
These two airmen were crew of Lysander N1306 - 4 Sqn ( Henk's Y0078).


Our database has a different version of the fate of this aircraft: http://www.rafcommands.com/database/serials/details.php?uniq=N1306
There has also been discussion on TOCH: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=57278
where Martin Gleeson notes:

"18th August 1940

22 Group

26 Squadron, West Malling

Lysander II N1306. Destroyed in strafing attacks on airfield by Bf 109s at 1325 hours. No aircrew casualties. Aircraft a write-off.
Sources: 26 Sqn. ORB (AIR 27/317, F.541) and Air-Britain’s ‘L1000-N9999’. West Malling ORB (AIR 28/907) adds nothing extra."

So maybe were are looking for another serial for this loss?

[jonheyworth]

Leslie Timothy Newcombe 702680 , was killed in an airscew accident