430220 - Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 20-2-1943

[Henk Welting]

What were the places of death registration for:

A - Died on active service:
AC2 Reginald J. CRESWICK - 1318575;
ACW2 Elsie HIGGINS - 2136036, and
LAC John W. LINES - 964745 - age 28.

B - Not found in Flight archives:
LAC James ADAM - 1374242 - age 22 - 2802 Sqn (RAF Regt);
Cpl John G. FORREST - 618028;
AC2 Francis T. HANLON - 2200246, and
LAC Archibald S. PIRIE - 1050883 - age 35.

C - Proposed aircraft losses:
Blenheim IV - L4839 - TFU - crashed on landing Defford.
Tiger Moth II - T5492 - 25 (P)EFTS - crashed on landing Markeaton, Derbyshire.
Firebrand - DD810 - Blackburn - flew into ground Brough (civil pilot ?).

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[davew]

Henk

re the Firebrand DD810 from FAA A/c 1939-1945

20/2/1943 EF , factured oil pipe, oil on windscreen, attempted wheels-up landing at Brough, hit 1.5 inch cable of Earle's Cement Works overhead bucket system, which broke. Cat 5 (F/Lt A Thompson RAF slightly injured). Rebuilt as TF.11 protype NV636.

regards

DaveW

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Warner has no casualties on Blenheim L4839
Creswick,20, registered at Fylde, Lancashire
Elsie Higgins,18, registered at Lancaster, Lancashire
Lines,28, registered at Wenlock, Shropshire, ?Cosford Hospital
Adam,22, registered at Louth, Lincolnshire
Forrest,26, registered at Gateshead, Co Durham
Hanlon, 18, registered at Liverpool North
Pirie didn't come but he was from Aberdeen and is buried there, may have died on Home leave
Regards
Dick

[Henk Welting]

Thanks D&D for your much appreciated help.
Regards,
Henk.

[Theletterwriter]

Henk

LAC Archibald Shields Pirie 1050883 died in Glasgow and his death is registered in Provan, Glasgow. Dick is correct in saying he is buried in Aberdeen. His father Archibald Shields Pirie is recorded on his son's Statutory Death notice as being alive at the time of his son's death. However, there is a record of a 66 year old Archibald Shields Pirie dying in 1943. There is the possibility that Pirie Snr. died in the same year as his son.

Douglas

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Douglas for this and also answer for 21st Feb 43; much appreciated.
Regards,
Henk.

[wwrsimon]

Hello

LAC James ADAM - 1374242 - the Lincolnshire Echo of February 23rd 1943 reported the following:

STEN GUN ACCIDENT AT LINCS. CAMP
R.A.F. Guard Killed
While on duty at a camp in Lincolnshire, Leading Aircraftman James Adam (22), of East King Street, Helensburgh, Dumbarton, was accidentally killed by a Sten gun bullet.
Leading Aircraftman Armstrong gave evidence at an inquest yesterday that Adam and himself were standing side by side in a hangar, both carrying a loaded Sten gun. As he bent over to look inside a small aeroplane the gun slipped off his shoulder on to the floor and went off. He turned and saw Adam on the floor.
It was stated that if a loaded Sten gun were banged sharply on the floor it might cause the gun to fire. A verdict of "Accidental death" was recorded.

Regards

Simon

[jonheyworth]

Elsie Higgins 213036 , an ACH/ C&B attached to Number 31 WAAF RC , was admitted to RAF Hospital Morecombe on 5 December where she died of lymphatic leukaemia

[jonheyworth]

John George Forrest 618028 , had been admitted seriously ill to Wynberg military hospital in South Africa on 30 May 1942 suffering from sub acute appendicitis. . Medically repatriated to the UK , he died of carcinoma of the calcum

[jonheyworth]

John William Lines 964745 , attached to RAF Alness, was admitted dangerously ill to RAF Hospital Cosford on 16 February, dying of advanced carcinoma of the stomach

[jonheyworth]

Francis Thomas Hanlon 2200246 | attached to 20 OTU | Was admitted to the Military hospital at Ormskirk on 16 February, dying of toxaemia following diphtheria

[jonheyworth]

Reginald John Creswick 1318575 | attached to RAF Kirkham | was admitted seriously ill to RAF Station Hospital Kirkham, on 16 January. He became dangerously ill on 26 January, dying of lobar pneumonia