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Henk Welting
27th September 2010, 11:48
What were the places of death registration for:

A - Died on active service:
Sgt George A. WEBB - 1112510.

B - Not found in Flight Global:
F/Lt John WHITTAKER - 77998 - MiD, and
AC1 Benjamin WOLFF - 1459264.

C - Proposed aircraft losses:
Anson I - K8776 - 10 (O)AFU - crashed on take-off Dumfries.
Hurricane I - R4107 - 55 OTU - crashed in forced landing near Annan.
Master II - W9062 - 7 (P)AFU - crashed on landing Sibson.
Anson I - DJ220 - 10 (O)AFU - overshot landing Renfrew.
Beaufighter VI - EL328 - 2(C)OTU - crashed in forced landing near Lissett.
Beaufighter XI - JL944 - 404 Sqn - crashed on approach Wick.
Martinet I - JN499 - 8 AGS - crashed on take-off Evanton.

D - Also looking for more info on following airmen:
Sgt (Pilot) William E. DAVIES - 1431089 - 70 OTU - KOAS - buried Moascar War Cem., Egypt (could have been on Baltimore FA309, crashed at Shandur this day: undercarriage collapsed on landing, a/c to 4024M), and
AC1 Francis SMITH - 1069232 - commemorated on Panel 290 of the Runnymede Memorial (can't find his name on the GRO-list).

Regards and thanks for your help.

27th September 2010, 12:50
Hi Henk
Webb,30, registered at Howden, E Yorkshire.This area was split in 1937 into Howdenshire and Holderness It could be right for EL328 at Lisset also E Yorkshire
2 possibles for John Whittaker who is buried in Wales.1st,age 47,registered at Merioneth South,the other age 48(as CWGC) registered at Prescot, Lancashire
Wolff is not on Eng and Wales register but all your other crashes are in Scotland.He was taken to Plaistow,E London for burial

Henk Welting
27th September 2010, 15:50
Thanks Dick. WEBB was DOAS, if killed on EL328 he should have been listed KOAS.

27th September 2010, 16:35

From ABS

Z4177, a Hurricane I of 71OTU spun into the ground near Al Mahsamah al Qadimah (8m west of Ismailia) on 28-Jun-43: probably a more likely contender for Sgt DAVIES than the Baltimore


27th September 2010, 17:53
The No.2 (C) OTU ORB doesn't record any injuries or fatalities resulting from EL328.

Tim Bishop
27th September 2010, 18:30

Martinet JN499 from my notes - aircrafts engine failed on take off and overshot airfield on attempted landing, engine failure due to control electrode to the spark plugs being burnt away. Pilot Flt / Lt HILL, Llewellyn George (115591) Uninjured, UNKNOWN T.T.O. Uninjured.

If anyone can confirm the name of the T.T.O. I certainly would be interested.

Kind regards,


27th September 2010, 19:36
Hi Henk

Lissett would be registered in Holderness not Howden.

Smith was registered in Wandsworth in the 3rd Quarter, hence why he's not listed in the GRO list.


7th May 2018, 15:39

AC1 Benjamin WOLFF - 1459264 - the Marylebone Mercury of July 17th 1943 reported the following:

Suicide Suffered From Insomnia
Stated to have suffered from insomnia and nervous instability for a year, an R.A.F. barber, Benjamin Wolff, 38, of West Roe Drive, Barking, was found in a locked room in Kelvin House, Cleveland Street, W.1, with a wound in his throat and a razor by his side. A verdict of "Suicide while of unsound mind" was recorded at the inquest.



23rd February 2021, 16:03
Frederick Harrison 1184309, was killed by a mine whilst mine clearing near Quistreham

13th April 2021, 13:34
John Whittaker 77998 , a medically discharged airman, shot himself in the head in a bedroom at the Penhelig Arms Hotel in Aberdovey