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Henk Welting
19th February 2008, 14:11
What caused the death of P/O (Pilot) Alfred BAILEY - 40976 - 22 Sqn (Beauforts/North Coates), buried Gosport (Ann's Hill) Cem., Hampshire (UK4826).
Can't find his name in the Flight Global archives; no proposed aircraft loss for this day.
Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

Amrit
19th February 2008, 16:39
Hi Henk

full details here

http://www.gosport.info/History/Anns_Hill_Cemetery_War_Graves_/Anns_Hill_Cemetery_War_Graves_/anns_hill_cemetery_war_graves_2.html

A

Ross_McNeill
19th February 2008, 16:41
Hi Henk,

Bailey was killed in a flying accident at TDU.

He was flying Vildebeest IV, K6408 from Gosport.

Sucessfully demonstrated dropping a torpedo in the new way. Took off to repeat the demonstration but using the old way, stalled and hit the sea 1 mile north north east of Ryde Pier, Isle of Wight. Both Bailey and his observer were killed.

I have yet to seek an identity for the observer.

Regards
Ross

Dick
19th February 2008, 16:43
Hi Henk
There is a death of an Alfred Bailey age 26 registered at Gosport in the 3rd Qtr of 1940. As he is buried there he might have died at home , but there is the RN Hospital Haslar at Gosport as well so it could have been accident or illness. Haslar is a long way from N Coates
Regards
Dick

paulmcmillan
19th February 2008, 17:33
Hi Henk,


I have yet to seek an identity for the observer.

Regards
Ross

Ross

See the link to Ants Hill Cemetery
Civil Scientist Killed was named H. Dawson Aircraftsman Class 2 E.S Budd or is it Rudd ?? Survived

paulmcmillan
19th February 2008, 17:35
Harry Dawson

Who gets 2 mentions in CWGC!!!!

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3168809
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3113170

Second one has wrong date!

So only mystery now is Rudd or Budd

paulmcmillan
19th February 2008, 18:00
http://www.davidsiddall.com/testflyingmemorial/1939-45.htm


Has Budd killed - Obviously not true!

Henk Welting
20th February 2008, 13:46
Thanks gents for all your help.
Regards,
Henk.

jonheyworth
25th January 2021, 09:59
Thomas Henry Williams 948463 was fatally injured in the crash of Avro 504 AX871 when it crashed taking off from RAF Hawkinge, one other airman and the pilot survived

Alex Smart
12th November 2021, 19:34
Hello,

400801 - Unaccounted Airmen - 01-08-1940

From Henk's List -

UK
WILLIAMS, Thomas Henry - AC2c - 948463 - RAFVR.
Woodchurch (Holy Cross ) Churchyard, Birkenhead, Cheshire.
Avro 504N - AX871 - RAF Hawkinge.

From CWGC -

AUSTRALIA
HOPGOOD, Harry Thomas - P/O - 683 - RAAF.
Macquarie Park Cemetery and Crematorium, New South Wales, Australia.
MONTEROLA, Vincent Charles - Sgt - 2504 - RAAF.
Richmond ( St. Peter ) Anglican Cemetery, New South Wales, Australia.
These two airmen were crew of Wirraway - A20-17 - 22 Sqn - RAAF.

BELGIUM
DEFOSSE, Leon - Sgt - 1299996 - RAFVR.
Brussels Town Cemetery, Belgium Airman's Field of Honour, Brussels Capital Region, Belgium.
Blenheim I - L1308 - 5 OTU.

EGYPT
GOODGER, Stanley Richard - NA1c - C/FX.77505 - HMS Eagle - RN.
Alexandria (Chatby) Military War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
Swordfish - serial ? - 824 Sqn FAA - RN.

FRANCE
NOKES-COOPER, Benjamin - F/O - 77362 - RAFVR.
Bayeux War Cemetery, Calvados, France.
DREW, Peter Edward - Sqn/Ldr - 26199 - RAF.
Biville Churchyard. Manche, France.
These two airmen were crew of Blenheim I - N3601 - 236 Sqn.

DAVIS, David Henry - P/O - 44271 - RAF - AFM - 2 MiD.
St. Valery-Ex-Caux Franco-British Cemetery, Seine-Maritime, France.
MORGAN-WELD-SMITH - Reginald Gilbert Squarey - Wng/Cdr - 05224 - RAF - MiD.
St. Pierre-En-Port Communal Cemetery, Seine-Maritime, France.
PRYDE, Peter - Sgt - 551852 - RAF.
Veules-Les-Roses Communal Cemetery, Seine-Maritime, France.
These three airmen were crew of Blenheim IV - L8792 - 59 Sqn.

NETHERLANDS
BARROW, Victor St.George - Sgt - 542271 - RAF.
GOODE, John Douglas - P/O - 40691 - RAF.
WILL, Ernest Alexander - Sgt - 580929 - RAF.
These three airmen were crew of Blenheim IV - R3898 - 114 Sqn
BELL, Brian Stallard - P/O - 40663 - RAF.
Hampden I - P4383 - 50 Sqn
These four airmen all rest at Bergen-Op-Zoom War Cemetery, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands.

TUNISIA
ROBINS, John Rumney - Lt(A) - HMS Ark Royal - RN
Medjez-El-Bag War Cemetery, Tunisia.
Swordfish - P4273 - 810 Sqn - FAA - RN.

UK
BAILEY, Alfred - P/O - 40976 - RAF.
Gosport (Ann's Hill) Cemetery, Hampshire.
Vildebeest - K6408 - 22 Sqn.

BAKER, Sydney Nevil - Sgt - 645894 - RAF.
Dordon (St.Leonard) Churchyard, Warwickshire.
DAY, Oswald George - Sgt - 742004 - RAFVR.
Leicester (Gilroes) Cemetery, Leicestershire.
RHODES, George William - AC2c - 996999 - RAFVR.
Sheffield (Crookes) Cemetery, Yorkshire.
THEVENARD, George Holland - F/O - 70668 - RAFVR.
Middleton Stoney (All Saints) Churchyard, Oxfordshire.
These four airmen were crew of Hereford - L6067 - 16 OTU.

FARMER, Edward Deryck - Sgt - 565737 - RAF.
Waddington (St. Michael) Churchyard, Lincolnshire.
WOOD, Cyril Edward Thomas - Sgt - 638499 - RAF.
Oxford (Botley) Cemetery, Oxfordshire.
These two airmen were crew of Hampden I - L4085 - 44 Sqn.

LONG, Brian Conway - Sgt - 580616 - RAF - MiD.
MOSS, Brian Elwyn - F/O - 72027 - RAFVR.
RADLEY, Thomas James - Sgt - 646336 - RAF.
These three airmen rest at Binbrook ( St. Mary) Churchyard, Lincolnshire.
They were crew of Battle - L5568 - 12 Sqn.

EVANS, Christopher Douglas - Sgt - 617444 - RAF.
Hampden I - P4383 - 50 Sqn.

MILLER, William Elliott - Sgt - 742485 - RAFVR.
TAILFORD, Donald - Sgt - 526290 - RAF.
These two airmen were crew of Hampden I - P4383 - 50 Sqn.

HEAD, Frederick Arthur Percy - Sgt - 902546 - RAFVR.
McDONOUGH, Brian Martin - P/O - 42137 - RAF.
These two airmen were crew of Blenheim I - R2774 - 236 Sqn.

The five airmen named above are all commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.

KESTIN, Ian Herbert - S/Lt(A) - HMS Raven - RNVR.
Hurricane - P3155 - 145 Sqn RAF.

CLARKE, Jack - PO(A) - FX.76313 - HMS Ark Royal - RN. (2nd August ?).
TARVER, John Malcolm Maine - Lt(A) - HMS Ark Royal - RN
These two Naval Airmen were crew of Swordfish - P4273 - 810 Sqn - FAA - RN.
The three Naval Airmen named above are all commemorated on the Lee-On-Solent Memorial, Hampshire.

Alex

Andy Marden
12th November 2021, 19:48
HEAD, Frederick Arthur Percy - Sgt - 902546 - RAFVR.
McDONOUGH, Brian Martin - P/O - 42137 - RAF.
These two airmen were crew of Wellington Ic - N2774 - 236 Sqn.


Alex,
This was Blenheim R2774. It needs linking in our database
Andy

Andy Marden
12th November 2021, 20:49
FRANCE
NOKES-COOPER, Benjamin - F/O - 77362 - RAFVR.
Bayeux War Cemetery, Calvados, France.
DREW, Peter Edward - Sqn/Ldr - 26199 - RAF.
Biville Churchyard. Manche, France.
These two airmen were crew of Valentia- K3601 - 236 Sqn.

Alex,
This was Blenheim N3601.
Andy

jonny
13th November 2021, 09:19
Liverpool Echo - Tuesday 06 August 1940

"DEATHS.

AMENDED NOTICE

WILLIAMS — August 1, killed in accident, aged 25 years. Aircraftman THOMAS HENRY WILLIAMS, dearly-loved only son of Mr and Mrs. Joseph H. Williams, Lang Lea, Woodchurch Road, Prenton. Interment, Woodchurch Parish Church, tomorrow (Wednesday) at 2 p.m."

Liverpool Evening Express - Friday 09 August 1940

"PRENTON AIRCRAFTMAN KILLED

A prominent member of the choir of Brunswick Methodist Church, Birkenhead, Aircraftman Thomas Henry Williams, of Lang Lea, Woodchurch-road Prenton, has been killed in a flying accident. His father, Mr. J. H. Williams, is organist at the church. Aircraftman Williams was an old boy of Birenhead Institute."

Lyffe
13th November 2021, 10:38
Being a little bit curious as to Williams being killed in an Avro 504N, essentially a WW1 aircraft, a little digging finds the incident has been covered previously by the forum. The following adds a little more to the story.

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?18513-Avro-504-AX871&p=108664#post108664

Brian