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    Default 430420 - Unaccounted airmen - 20-4-1943

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Died on active service:
    AC2 Albert H. BIRCH - 1245406 - age 37;
    LAC James FLEMING - 1764015, and
    AC2 (Airgunner) John HAMME - 1891709.

    B - Killed on active service:
    AC1 Henry A. BURSTON - 1089757 - age 32.

    C - Proposed aircraft losses:
    Oxford I - EB804 - RAFC - crashed in forced landing Loveden Hill, Gelston, Caythorpe, Lincolnshire.
    Oxford I - HN177 - 287 Sqn - flew into ground at night Croydon (already as a casualty on this a/c: W/OČ [Pilot] W.D. BATES - RCAF R/88389).

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    Birch,37, registered at Northumberland North 1st District
    Fleming,22, registered at Bathavon, Somerset
    Hamme,32, registered at Buckrose, E Yorkshire
    Burston,32, registered at Staines,Middlesex
    Regards
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    Thanks Dick for info on this and other registration dates.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Henk (et al),
    Hamme's death is slightly odd! His Svc No indicates he can't have Enlisted earlier than 1 Jan 43 (Euston, London). Assuming he did Enlist on 1 Jan 43 then 15 weeks (to his death) is a very short time for him to be an Air Gunner (even if only u/t!). He probably didn't get Called Up on 1 Jan 43, so issue of kit, Basic Training, posting to a Gunners Course, etc, etc, would be difficult to fit into that short time. Either that, or were they putting them through the Air Gunners 'sausage machine' in double quick time?!!!!
    Does anyone know the circumstances?
    Rgds
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    LAC James FLEMING - 1764015 - accidental death, he died in hospital from a blood clot on his lungs after surgery, which followed a road accident while he was riding in the back of a lorry on 4th April.
    (Bath Weekly Chronicle, 1 May 1943)

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    Default 1891709 AM2 John Hemme

    Quote Originally Posted by Resmoroh View Post
    Henk (et al),
    Hamme's death is slightly odd! His Svc No indicates he can't have Enlisted earlier than 1 Jan 43 (Euston, London). Assuming he did Enlist on 1 Jan 43 then 15 weeks (to his death) is a very short time for him to be an Air Gunner (even if only u/t!). He probably didn't get Called Up on 1 Jan 43, so issue of kit, Basic Training, posting to a Gunners Course, etc, etc, would be difficult to fit into that short time. Either that, or were they putting them through the Air Gunners 'sausage machine' in double quick time?!!!!
    Does anyone know the circumstances?
    Rgds
    Peter Davies
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    1891709 AM2 John Hamme
    I have solved this one - he was actually at No.14 Initial Training Wing at the time of his death, so he had probably chosen to apply for aircrew and would have been classes as 'Aircrafthand under training - Air Gunner'

    Cheers

    David
    Last edited by djbarnes; 19th April 2016 at 15:38. Reason: Surname HAMME

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    Default Re: 430420 - Unaccounted airmen - 20-4-1943

    Hamme died of natural causes, see facebook plugin comment for full details

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