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    Default Re: RAF Casualty Packs 1939-45 Public Access

    PS Now I have found a better way to interrogate the search engine I have found 12 previously closed files now open these are (with year of opening)

    AIR 81/1499 Sergeant J M C Bryden: killed; Spitfire K9965, 602 Squadron; aircraft accident, 8 September 1939. 2019
    AIR 81/1518 Pilot Officer J J H Copley: killed; Spitfire K9849, 41 Squadron; aircraft accident, 14 September 1939. 2019
    AIR 81/1578 Flight Lieutenant B R O Hoare: injured; Battle L4966, 207 Squadron; aircraft accident, 6 October 1939. 2020
    AIR 81/1616 Flying Officer D R D Green, Pilot Officer J D Cody, Pilot Officer R E Cox: killed; Anson N5158 and Anson N5177, 108 Squadron; mid-air collision, 31 October 1939. 2020
    AIR 81/1649 Flight Lieutenant C W K Nicholls, Squadron Leader A E Groom: injured; Blenheim L8662, Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment (A&AEE); Aircraft accident, 11 November 1939. 2020
    AIR 81/1663 "Pilot Officer K C H Jacobs: killed; Blenheim L1275, 108 Squadron; aircraft accident, 16 November 1939.
    Note: With plan" 2020
    AIR 81/1785 Flying Officer W T C Seale: uninjured; Pilot Officer W L Rodgers, Pilot Officer F A G F De Labouchere-Sparling: injured; aircraft accident, Harwell, Wellington L4371, 75 Squadron, 10 January 1940. 2021
    AIR 81/1791 "Flight Lieutenant T M Tinker: died of injuries; Sergeant F W Whyte: injured; aircraft accident, Kohat, India, Tiger Moth T1778, 27 Squadron, 13 January 1940.
    Note: With photographs" 2021
    AIR 81/1886 Pilot Officer K F Fisk: killed; aircraft accident, Upper Heyford, Blenheim L1209, 108 Squadron, 7 March 1940. 2020
    AIR 81/1890 "Flying Officer W J MacRae, Flight Lieutenant E R Berrill, Sergeant C T Murphy, Corporal R Jackson, Aircraftman L Mackenzie: killed; aircraft accident, Brooklands, Wellington N3017, 9 Squadron, 8 March 1940.
    Note: With photographs" 2020
    AIR 81/1900 Sergeant G D Cossar, Sergeant A J Kenny: injured; aircraft accident, Andover, Battle K9396, 52 Squadron, 11 March 1940. 2021
    AIR 81/1957 Sergeant H J L Harris: killed; aircraft accident, Lower Machen, Anson N9545, 1 Ferry Pool, 30 March 1940. 2021

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    As TNA only allows 1000 records to be downloaded, how are you "searching" and getting full results ..... I am looking for all 35 Squadron reports in the listing

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    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hi Pete

    You have a few options open to you when you use the 'Advance Search' option.

    In the field 'Any of these references' just put Air 81, then select the 'Search The National Archives' option, then under Catalogue Levels I choose 'Piece' and 'Item' and press the 'Search' button. This will pull up over 15k+ records but you can narrow it down by varying the 'Record Opening Date' options and/or the closure status. For instance records opened 'In the last 12 months' returns 2,448 hits. At this stage choose 'Export Results', on the pop up box shaded a light brown(?), instead of 'Export the first 1,000 records' select 'Export all records as spreadsheet (CSV)' this will then download all 2,448 hits and up to a maximum return of 10,000 items. At one point this used to be unlimited, but varying the opening dates etc., you can download all the material eventually.

    As you said you are interested in 35 squadron, another option as a possible search is to also populate the 'Exact word or phrase' field. If you put ', 35 squadron' (n.b. COMMA SPACE then 35 squadron) this eliminates 135, 235, 335, 445 etc. squadrons which you would get returns if you just put '35 squadron'. Adding this fixed narrative should yield 53 hits for your squadron of interest.

    Hope this helps and isn't 'clear as mud'!

    Pierre

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    Also as I know the records I want to check if I search

    "AIR 81/250" OR "AIR 81/9361" OR "AIR 81/13367"

    Will only return 3 rows which I can export!

    you can do around 25 ORs...

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    Consolidated Spreadsheet now available to June 2021 if interested = I have sent to Jagan for incorporation on here Paul

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    Just found out that previously closed file AIR 81/1702: Pilot Officer R M Williams, Pilot Officer H G Yelland, Aircraftman L Dale, Aircraftman J C Hunt: killed; Blenheim L8691, 141 Squadron; aircraft accident, Leuchars, 1 December 1939 was opened 4th June 2021 (in full no new additional closed record file)

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    Thanks everyone; managed to get the 35 Squadron information that I needed and added it to the website. It is such a shame it isn't digitised so that we can access it

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    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Default Re: RAF Casualty Packs 1939-45 Public Access

    Quote Originally Posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    Consolidated Spreadsheet now available to June 2021 if interested = I have sent to Jagan for incorporation on here Paul
    Thanks Paul, all the data is now in the AIR81 DB and should come up in the relevant pages (linked to serials)

    While we are at it - is this an error

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ls/r/C17386894
    Flight Lieutenant R T Swartz: died of injuries; 2 Squadron of 1 American Volunteer Group, enemy air raid at Magwe, Burma, 24 April 1942
    An RAF Rank officer in the AVG - and not listed in the CWGC either
    Last edited by Jagan; 9th June 2021 at 22:51.

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    Default Re: RAF Casualty Packs 1939-45 Public Access

    How strange is that?

    Frank Swartz was in the AVG. On 22 March 1942 while at Magwe the Japanese attacked. He jumped from his slit trench to help crew chief, John Fauth. Dick Rossi stated "Swartz had part of his hand blown off and a bad gash on his throat". Flown to Delhi the next day, Swartz was operated on and passed from a hospital borne infection on 24 April 1942.

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    https://www.honorstates.org/index.php?id=366270

    He had enlisted in the United States Army Air Forces. Served during World War II. His military occupation or specialty was Wingman. Attached to Flying Tigers, American Volunteer Group (AVG), 2nd Squadron (Panda Bears)

    "During the Japanese air raid of March 1942, Frank Swartz lost part of his hand and most of his jaw when a bomb exploded nearby while he was on the ground in a slit trench. He was airlifted to a British army hospital in India. Swartz, delirious with infection, died slowly and painfully weeks later."


    Looks like a mistake based on Fact he died in British Hospital


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4824604878

    Title: "Frank Swartz-Died in Calcutta Hospital as a result of injuries from Magwe, Burma bombing"
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 10th June 2021 at 06:47.

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